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  01/01/2012 05:55 AM
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Brad_G


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What Kind of Fish is this?

The body shape sure looks like a tuna, but I've never seen one with those kind of markings and small fins. From the Intrepid website, caught on the first day of fishing of an 11 day trip.


http://fishintrepid.com/frphotos/12-30-11c.jpg


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  01/01/2012 06:58 AM
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Loudmusic

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re: What Kind of Fish is this?

Looks like a Little Tunny. Euthynnus alletteratus is the latin name. Another common name would be False Albacore.

They are found thoughout the topical oceans of the world but I think they are way more common in the atlantic/carribean than in the eastern pacific.

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  01/01/2012 07:13 AM
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conchydong


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re: What Kind of Fish is this?


That is the Pacific version of the Little Tunny and is called the Kawakawa. It is very similar to the Atlantic version but with slight variations in the markings and dorsal fins.

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  01/01/2012 07:42 AM
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Loudmusic

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re: What Kind of Fish is this?

conchydong wrote:


That is the Pacific version of the Little Tunny and is called the Kawakawa. It is very similar to the Atlantic version but with slight variations in the markings and dorsal fins.



The book I have shows them as the same species but is obviouly outdates. The Pacific version (Kawakawa) is Euthynnus affinis.

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  01/01/2012 08:12 AM
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Holi_e_Mackeral


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re: What Kind of Fish is this?

Try this:

http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.fda.gov/ucm/groups/fdagov-public/documents/image/UCM060224.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.fda.gov/Food/FoodSafety/Product-SpecificInformation/Seafood/RegulatoryFishEncyclopediaRFE/ucm083595.htm&h=742&w=1339&sz=184&tbnid=hfQjqbtnDBYQLM:&tbnh=69&tbnw=124&prev=/search%3Fq%3Dkawakawa%2Bfish%26tbm%3Disch%26tbo%3Du&zoom=1&q=kawakawa+fish&docid=fpI7PNyp0B5IGM&sa=X&ei=sIUAT53MGueIsQLVyJ2tAQ&ved=0CFAQ9QEwBQ&dur=1672


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  01/01/2012 08:22 AM
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Oakey520

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re: What Kind of Fish is this?

That is a false albacore. I used to catch them while surf fishing during September and October in New Jersey. We carried small diamond jigs like ava 007's and cast to breaking schools that came within range. They are good fighting fish, but taste horrible! I remember one morning I had them on every cast while surf fishing for striped bass.

Looks like they are having a great trip.Smile


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  01/01/2012 09:40 AM
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Brad_G


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re: What Kind of Fish is this?

Thanks guys.


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  01/01/2012 11:01 AM
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t4freds

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re: What Kind of Fish is this?

Brad_G wrote:

Thanks guys.


I was just going to ask about that......but have been distracted by
some nonsense on another thread.
A false Albi....cool.

thanks....

bob........


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  01/01/2012 12:43 PM
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REK

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re: What Kind of Fish is this?

Not by personal experience, but I've been told that there is no better sashimi than from a Kawakawa. Anybody?

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  01/01/2012 06:36 PM
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Oakey520

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re: What Kind of Fish is this?

REK wrote:

Not by personal experience, but I've been told that there is no better sashimi than from a Kawakawa. Anybody?



They are awful tasting fish. Extremely bloody. Good Mako bait..but that is about it.
Nobody keeps them on the East Coast.

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  01/01/2012 07:35 PM
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tunavic1


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re: What Kind of Fish is this?

I agree with Conchydog,that guy knows his fish!

Cya Tuna Vic

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  01/02/2012 11:23 AM
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Terry_CA


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re: What Kind of Fish is this?

Guys, if it was caught in the eastern Pacific, it is a black skipjack, Euthynnus lineatus. Kawakawa are in the central Pacific/Hawaii.

http://www.fishbase.tw/Summary/SpeciesSummary.php?id=98

They aren't the best table fare, for sure.

Terry


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  01/02/2012 11:26 AM
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  01/02/2012 12:04 PM
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conchydong


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re: What Kind of Fish is this?

I will stand by Kawakawa. The squiggly markings are the giveaway. The Black Skipjack has more of a striped or bar type marks.
According to this article, the Kawakawa is listed as an "accidental"
catch in the Eastern Pacific.


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KawakawaOther names—wavyback skipjack, eastern little tuna, mackerel, tuna, Pacific little tunny, false albacore, dwarf bonito; Cantonese: to chung; Hindi: suraly; Japanese: hiragatsuo, obosogatsuo, soda, suma; Malay: ayu, bakulan, kayu; Tagalog (Philippines): katsarita, manko, pidlayan; Turkish: yazili.

A member of the Scombridae family of mack-erel, the kawakawa was classified as Euthynnus alletteratus affinnis when it was thought to be a subspecies of the Atlantic little tunny (Euthynnus alletteratus). It is now considered a separate species. This good gamefish is a prominent commercial species in the Philippines, Malaysia, and India. Its flesh is dark red, and in some places it is highly valued as food. In Hawaii it is often prepared as sashimi.

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1 Identification
2 Size
3 Distribution
4 Habitat
5 Food and feeding habits
6 Angling

IdentificationThe first dorsal fin of the kawakawa has 14 to 16 spines, and the second dorsal fin has 12 to 13 rays. The anal fin has 12 to 14 rays. There are no scales on the body, except on the corselet and lateral line. There are 29 to 34 gill rakers on the first arch, compared to 53 to 63 in the skipjack tuna (Katsuwonnus pelamis) and 32 to 41 in the black skipjack (E. lineatus). On the back, beginning near the midpoint of the dorsal fin, are a number of oblique, wavy lines over a turquoise background. These squiggly lines run from the lateral line back toward the dorsal fins. Some live specimens may display dark, prominent longitudinal stripes on the venter. These stripes tend to disappear quickly once the fish is removed from the water, leaving only a number of dark spots showing between the pectoral fins and the ventral fins.

SizeKawakawa are reported to attain a maximum length of 40 inches and a weight of 30 pounds. The all-tackle world record is a 29-pound specimen.

DistributionThis species is widespread in tropical and temperate waters of the Indo-Pacific, from the Red Sea and South Africa east to Indonesia and Australia, and from Japan and the Philippines throughout Oceania to the Hawaiian Islands. It is accidental in the eastern Pacific, where it is replaced by the closely related black skipjack (see: skipjack, black).

HabitatThis pelagic and migratory species stays fairly close to land. It may be found near reefs and in estuaries, as well as in open waters, and sometimes forms multispecies schools by size with other scombrids consisting of between 100 and several thousand individuals.

Food and feeding habitsMore than half of the food ingested by the kawakawa consists of crustaceans, although squid and pelagic fish also form a large part of its diet. It is a highly opportunistic feeder.

AnglingFishing methods include trolling lures or whole or cut baits, live-bait fishing, and casting. Some effective baits include squid, herring, sauries, mullet, anchovies, mackerel, halfbeaks, and yellowtail.


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  01/02/2012 12:36 PM
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Terry_CA


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re: What Kind of Fish is this?

I wish we had the fish to know for sure. Could do a gill raker count and the other meristics to know for sure. One thing: if it's a black skipjack, it's a big one. We caught one on a tuna tagging trip to Cocos in the early '80's that was over 20 lbs and this one looks pretty big.

Terry

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