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 07/08/2011 06:18 PM
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Hithard
Joined: 06/25/2004
Posts: 3933
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re: :(
ChannelIslands wrote:
ENVIRO TROLL wrote:
You are a fake! Go away. 
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CLASSIC!
Catch'em, let'em go and catch'em again!
Mike on the BygBahd
21' Striper
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 07/08/2011 07:08 PM
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fishnadct
Joined: 02/15/2007
Posts: 66
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re: ALBACORE
Could be that they have changed their migrating route to adapt to cyclical changes.That 3 or 4 years in the 80's with no albies ,isnt it more like 7 -10, then in about 1994 they started showing up in huge numbers for about 6 years or so and have benn making varied showings since.The summer of the 40 pounders was incredible and that came right out of left feild.Remember the doom and gloom when the Revilla's were closed then the boats had to look elsewhere and look what happened, cows galore on 10 day trips.Only time will tell but my guess is its a water temp and food source/current thing.Im going out on the Vagabond sunday and I know I will be having more fun than I would be at work and its about time for the Bluefins to regain their apetite!.
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07/09/2011 01:22 PM
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Gnarly
Joined: 03/10/2007
Posts: 247
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re: :(
wahoodad wrote:
ChannelIslands wrote:
There are species out there that are in trouble, albacore is just not one of them.
BINGO! They must not be in trouble, they were unlimited for many years, and I think they only put a limit of ten on to keep us from being pigs. Why you would need more than 5 is beyond me.
In the 70's when I fished the Holiday people on board would walk off with 20 or more albacore. One guy told me he sold most of his fish to a fish market in Temple City. I think for the most part anglers today are better about a self limit.
Newport Harbor High School. The flagship of the Sunset League.
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07/09/2011 09:35 PM
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Genozzz
Joined: 12/31/1999
Posts: 62
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The condition of the ocean
What about the pollution factor? San Diego is pouring millions of gallons of waste into the sea every day with some treatment and the country beneath us is pouring millions of gallons totally untreated sewage into the ocean. During the 60 and 70's the Coranado Islands were beautiful for diving, it was like a fish bowl. Today that same place is almost a desert. Perhaps albacore just don't like our stinky waters any more. Any way there is a lot that we don't know about our waters still in this day. I would love to go out and get some fish but we have killed the local fishing. No it is not the gill nets, no it is not the fishing, it is the pollution.
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07/10/2011 02:08 PM
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Marley
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Freshwater Fishing Reports and Discussion
Joined: 04/01/2007
Posts: 2887
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re: :(
wahoodad wrote:
ChannelIslands wrote:
There are species out there that are in trouble, albacore is just not one of them.
BINGO! They must not be in trouble, they were unlimited for many years, and I think they only put a limit of ten on to keep us from being pigs. Why you would need more than 5 is beyond me.
If I ever get enough time off of work to chase 'em, there's a limit of albacore out there that are definitely endangered!
I just like to fish
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07/10/2011 07:13 PM
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Deep Water Sailor
Joined: 05/30/2005
Posts: 110
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re: The condition of the ocean
Genozzz wrote:
What about the pollution factor? San Diego is pouring millions of gallons of waste into the sea every day with some treatment and the country beneath us is pouring millions of gallons totally untreated sewage into the ocean. During the 60 and 70's the Coranado Islands were beautiful for diving, it was like a fish bowl. Today that same place is almost a desert. Perhaps albacore just don't like our stinky waters any more. Any way there is a lot that we don't know about our waters still in this day. I would love to go out and get some fish but we have killed the local fishing. No it is not the gill nets, no it is not the fishing, it is the pollution.
In the early 50,s you caught Abacore between the San Pedro Lighthouse and Avalon in the middle of the Channel. Albacore like clean water. Pollution is now a big problem.
Deep Water Sailor
Deep Water Sailor
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07/10/2011 09:00 PM
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Marley
Moderator
Freshwater Fishing Reports and Discussion
Joined: 04/01/2007
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re: The condition of the ocean
There are a few albacore hooked mid-channel most years still, although it's been a couple of years since I read anything about them.
It would be good if they came close enough for us to get to. I only got two last year and they are long gone. Not even seeing much tuna at all in the supermarkets this year. Albertson's has some imported IQF steaks from obviously tiny yellowfin, that's about it.
I just like to fish
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07/12/2011 12:47 PM
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Gnarly
Joined: 03/10/2007
Posts: 247
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re: The condition of the ocean
For the Royal Polaris web site.
Hi folks;
Weather was overcast today but the seas were calm. Conditions were excellent. Plenty of bait, blue water, and 64 to 66 degree water temp. We caught 1 Bluefin tuna for the day and saw 2 schools.
Although it is July 10th, I still believe the Albacore are coming and that with any luck they should get here in the next 10 days. The R/p crew.
P.S. We still have 3 spot left on the September 10th, Let's Talk Hookup, 7 day trip. Call our office at 619-226-8030 if you are interested or book on line.
"BeNt RoDs 4 LiFe"
Newport Harbor High School. The flagship of the Sunset League.
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07/12/2011 02:55 PM
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eddieg
Joined: 06/22/2004
Posts: 356
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re: The condition of the ocean
Anybody who denies tuna stocks are way down is not playing with a full deck. Plain and simple, when purse seiners go and scoop up hundreds of tons, over and over again, it has to have an effect.
After saying that, putting limits on recreational fisherman for migrating fish (tuna) is absolutley worthless for helping with this problem. Whether I take 10 or 40 tuna on a 5 day trip is nothing compared to what the corporations are taking on a daily basis. And who pays millions for lawyers and lobbyists to keep things exactly as they are now, the corporations. If people would put their efforts into stopping corporations from raping the seas (and other things) and stop blaming liberals and those trying to protect things, we might start making some progress towards finding a balance.
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07/12/2011 03:45 PM
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konared
Joined: 01/31/2005
Posts: 91
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re: The condition of the ocean
Have taken a month or so off, but here I go.
Albacore are rarely taken in purse seines.
This is a cycle, the conditions are not right for them to be in the area off northern Mexico and southern California. That does not mean they are gone. Also doesn't mean they wont show up later. They're just not here. Albacore are caught worldwide, I have caught a lot in Hawaii, not trolling or rod and reel, but handlines at night.They fish the same way in Fiji, and Samoa.
Google WFOA for some reports on the American commercial troll fleet. Some fish off Oregon, not as good as it should be, but getting better. Factor in fuel costs and marketing, it would explain a lot of the NOAA data. High catches in the 60's- 70's when there were canneries, and cheap fuel. Now there are none.And look at the fuel price. South Pacific data? Last year six U.S flag troll vessels went to the south Pacific, it's hard to run for 35 days, to Tahiti or Samoa,catching nothing, only to refuel, re-provision,then make a 60 day trip, only to have a bust year. And it's hard to cover a large area with a small number of boats. Would you, as a business person, do it again?
Most of the American albacore boats are corporations, as are most of the sportfishing boats, I know mine was.
I hope for the San Diego fleet that some fish show. They need it.
My ex-wife caught her first albacore in the San Pedro channel in 84'
47 lbs.
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07/13/2011 10:39 AM
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OffshoreKarma
Joined: 02/15/2007
Posts: 2326
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re: The condition of the ocean
Albies 280 wsw, with the full moon they run fast at night, that's why the RP can hope this fish are here in the next 10. Cross your fingers, these sportie owners need them a lot worse than we do.
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08/13/2011 06:17 PM
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SAMKANG
Joined: 05/24/2011
Posts: 28
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re: The condition of the ocean
I'm going on a two day on the Holiday during Labor Day weekend. Looks like a late bite this year.
This year is the return of the rare exotics imo. WSB and now BFT.
LOL at the envirotroll nick name. I do fish, and I hope I can report back with some albacore.
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08/28/2011 03:38 AM
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Hagridfish
Joined: 06/13/2008
Posts: 77
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re: ALBACORE
My very first long range trip was a 4 day on the "Q". It was the most AMAZING fishing trip I had ever been on. WFO on both albies and bluefin. I have seen that type of fishing only once for the albies. We stayed on one spot all day into the night. It was so good The Capt. ( Jeff DeBuys' ) moved us to Guadalupe on a 4 day. That trip had me hooked forever. I have since changed boats, and lengthened trip times. I truly hope that it is a cycle and not other factors that have been mentioned here. Not being an oceanographer, I don't know. But that trip in summer of 96 changed me forever. I have made friends, eaten well (on and off the boat), and had the most fun one can have with their clothes on. For the sake of the people who work in this industry, I hope the albacore start to show again.every one of them works too hard not to be successful. Great subject Fyreman, Good to see you here. Oh, Have you finished eating your 300 lb"er yet????
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08/29/2011 09:31 AM
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fyermn
Joined: 10/21/2005
Posts: 250
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re: ALBACORE
Hagridfish: My wife and I eat a lot of fish, and my #345 tuna is just about gone.We gave some away to neighbors, and we have a widowed Hawaiian lady who just loves Yellowfin tuna. Some also went to the local food bank here in Cedar City.
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