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EXCELSPORTFISH
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re: 9/15 days jigging/popping trip on the Excel from Jan 22 to Feb 6, 2013
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08/27/2011 04:04 AM
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conchydong
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re: 9/15 days jigging/popping trip on the Excel from Jan 22 to Feb 6, 2013
Welcome to the board Excel. Its nice to have LR boat representation here to give us the real scoop. Look forward to reading more reports and info.
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08/27/2011 07:07 AM
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Oakey520
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re: 9/15 days jigging/popping trip on the Excel from Jan 22 to Feb 6, 2013
JigGrinder wrote:
Oakey520 wrote:
JigGrinder wrote:
IMO this Jig/Pop trip will be short lived as most of the jig and pop anglers fish for Bluefin tuna on moving center consoles and often times in shallow water. These anglers are in for a whole new experience fishing aboard a long range boat that sits much higher off the water and does not spin or move towards the fish.
YFT are much stronger for their size than Bluefin are and moving them with 5 to 1 gear ratio spin gear is not an easy task. I have seen evidence of a few 100lb class YFT taken on a LR boat with the new generation spin reels but not many cows (two at most, one with a rail device) and zero super cows. They do have some pretty trick harness and plate gear now made specifically for saltwater spin reels, however the angler will be in some rather exagerated stances for the most part when fishing over the higher rail on a stationary LR boat, cow tuna in this application is pretty much a young man's game the way I see it as the fulcrum point for leverage is your body and rod plate which can equal a lot of pressure to apply when using a longer more parabolic popping rod in 7 to 8 foot lengths.
Most of the larger grade tuna that I have seen taken on the spin gear (mostly Bluefin on the east coast) the angler is using a rather short rod on a low freeboard moving boat using a plate and harness, very similar to the stand up style that we used in the early stages of LR fishing (5.5 to 6' rod with harness and plate and no rail resting) with the major differences of course being a higher rail and much larger stationary LR boat. But I don't see those shorter spin rods casting poppers/stick baits all that well with line coiling over the top of a big spool lip and spiraling through large spin guides placed fairly close together. So unless your are deep jigging with heavies the spin gear has the same tradeoffs as conventional gear when not used in conjunction with the rail: long rod good for casting distance but not so good for fighting, short rod good for fighting but not so good for casting distance. This is where using the rail technique with conventional reels shines: longer rod for better casting and longer rod for better fighting when using the sturdy rail as a fulcrum with leverage advantage on your side vs. lever advantage on the fish's side.
I tried injecting a dose of reality into this topic on several occasions over there on Brain Dead.com (BD) but recently got banned because I was too outspoken and was just sick and tired of a couple of spin reel fanatics constantly commanding threads on the "Long Range" forum that has spear gun fisherman for moderators. (go figure!).
No doubt that spinning reels have come a long way since the early days (as have conventionals) and they make a lot of sense for certain saltwater applications, but when it comes time for fishing for powerful cow and super cow YFT they make little sense to me based on design... so I will take a pass. For the extreme or "daredevil" angler seeking large tuna I guess they are all the rage these days. I wish them well on their quest for a new thrill seekeing adventure in the Long Range arena but honestly believe they are in for a rude awakening especially with those mean, "bad ass", open water YFT that thrive in shark infested Mexican waters.
Tight lines!
Those yellowfins can not be too tough. I have seen more then a few long range boats load and unload and they look like bingo night at a retirement community. 
Proof is in the pudding as they say... let's see some actual videos of cows being hooked and landed on the spin gear aboard a LR boat before we get too far ahead of ourselves here... the trip is 17 months away so some of these thrill seeking anglers in their 50's and 60's will have time to hit the gym and build their muscle and stamina, as well as get their testosterone and HGH shots in by then.
For the record, my money is still on the cow YFT's winning this extreme fishing challenge... angler age, physical condition, and skill set are certainly factors, but its the reel design being used that will be the largest hurdle to overcome IMO. There is one advantage that can come into play for the popper/stick bait fisherman where a large tuna's jaw gets locked up with super sharp and super strong 5X trebles to where the fish cannot breathe properly and tires faster being oxygen deprived.
Just glad to see this trip has been scheduled and coming to fruition as the west coast spin reel advocates will finally have a real life opportunity to show the rest of the Long Range community just how well the spin reel design truly pans out and performs on larger to cow grade YFT, and how much fun and/or pain is really involved if one is up to this extreme challenge.
Tight lines!
It will happen, they will begin to land these fish on spinning tackle. The world record was taken in under three hours on a good old 30 international...the one before that was landed in three minutes or something crazy. As for age...well, once again the world record fish was caught by a retired guy that looked to be in his 60's...it does not take overwhelming strength to fight a fish..and zero athletic ability. fishing is a great hobby because old timers can enjoy as well as youngsters. that is a good thing I am 39 not nearly as strong or mobile as i used to be....
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08/27/2011 02:13 PM
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Oakey520
Joined: 04/02/2011
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re: 9/15 days jigging/popping trip on the Excel from Jan 22 to Feb 6, 2013
JigGrinder wrote:
Oakey520 wrote:
JigGrinder wrote:
Oakey520 wrote:
JigGrinder wrote:
IMO this Jig/Pop trip will be short lived as most of the jig and pop anglers fish for Bluefin tuna on moving center consoles and often times in shallow water. These anglers are in for a whole new experience fishing aboard a long range boat that sits much higher off the water and does not spin or move towards the fish.
YFT are much stronger for their size than Bluefin are and moving them with 5 to 1 gear ratio spin gear is not an easy task. I have seen evidence of a few 100lb class YFT taken on a LR boat with the new generation spin reels but not many cows (two at most, one with a rail device) and zero super cows. They do have some pretty trick harness and plate gear now made specifically for saltwater spin reels, however the angler will be in some rather exagerated stances for the most part when fishing over the higher rail on a stationary LR boat, cow tuna in this application is pretty much a young man's game the way I see it as the fulcrum point for leverage is your body and rod plate which can equal a lot of pressure to apply when using a longer more parabolic popping rod in 7 to 8 foot lengths.
Most of the larger grade tuna that I have seen taken on the spin gear (mostly Bluefin on the east coast) the angler is using a rather short rod on a low freeboard moving boat using a plate and harness, very similar to the stand up style that we used in the early stages of LR fishing (5.5 to 6' rod with harness and plate and no rail resting) with the major differences of course being a higher rail and much larger stationary LR boat. But I don't see those shorter spin rods casting poppers/stick baits all that well with line coiling over the top of a big spool lip and spiraling through large spin guides placed fairly close together. So unless your are deep jigging with heavies the spin gear has the same tradeoffs as conventional gear when not used in conjunction with the rail: long rod good for casting distance but not so good for fighting, short rod good for fighting but not so good for casting distance. This is where using the rail technique with conventional reels shines: longer rod for better casting and longer rod for better fighting when using the sturdy rail as a fulcrum with leverage advantage on your side vs. lever advantage on the fish's side.
I tried injecting a dose of reality into this topic on several occasions over there on Brain Dead.com (BD) but recently got banned because I was too outspoken and was just sick and tired of a couple of spin reel fanatics constantly commanding threads on the "Long Range" forum that has spear gun fisherman for moderators. (go figure!).
No doubt that spinning reels have come a long way since the early days (as have conventionals) and they make a lot of sense for certain saltwater applications, but when it comes time for fishing for powerful cow and super cow YFT they make little sense to me based on design... so I will take a pass. For the extreme or "daredevil" angler seeking large tuna I guess they are all the rage these days. I wish them well on their quest for a new thrill seekeing adventure in the Long Range arena but honestly believe they are in for a rude awakening especially with those mean, "bad ass", open water YFT that thrive in shark infested Mexican waters.
Tight lines!
Those yellowfins can not be too tough. I have seen more then a few long range boats load and unload and they look like bingo night at a retirement community.
Proof is in the pudding as they say... let's see some actual videos of cows being hooked and landed on the spin gear aboard a LR boat before we get too far ahead of ourselves here... the trip is 17 months away so some of these thrill seeking anglers in their 50's and 60's will have time to hit the gym and build their muscle and stamina, as well as get their testosterone and HGH shots in by then.
For the record, my money is still on the cow YFT's winning this extreme fishing challenge... angler age, physical condition, and skill set are certainly factors, but its the reel design being used that will be the largest hurdle to overcome IMO. There is one advantage that can come into play for the popper/stick bait fisherman where a large tuna's jaw gets locked up with super sharp and super strong 5X trebles to where the fish cannot breathe properly and tires faster being oxygen deprived.
Just glad to see this trip has been scheduled and coming to fruition as the west coast spin reel advocates will finally have a real life opportunity to show the rest of the Long Range community just how well the spin reel design truly pans out and performs on larger to cow grade YFT, and how much fun and/or pain is really involved if one is up to this extreme challenge.
Tight lines!
It will happen, they will begin to land these fish on spinning tackle. The world record was taken in under three hours on a good old 30 international...the one before that was landed in three minutes or something crazy. As for age...well, once again the world record fish was caught by a retired guy that looked to be in his 60's...it does not take overwhelming strength to fight a fish..and zero athletic ability. fishing is a great hobby because old timers can enjoy as well as youngsters. that is a good thing I am 39 not nearly as strong or mobile as i used to be....
Have you ever decked a cow (200lb+) yellowfin tuna? The world record was landed on a 30W International tricked out by Cal Sheets after a 3 hour+ battle for the 6'4" angler using a short all roller rod with a harness & plate, way different reel application than fighting a large super cow size YFT on a single speed, 5 to 1 gear ratio spin reel. The previous YFT record your are referring too was taken at night where the fish got disoriented by the boat's deck lights and was boated pretty fast (basically gaffed while still "green" - flukes can and will happen when fishing, fish can have heart attacks during battle as well).
Bluefin tuna fished in shallow water on a moving boat are a different story than YFT taken in open water on a large stationary boat. Not sure why bluefin don't fight as hard in general as YFT cuz they are built very similar, but this is well known. YFT in Mexican waters have to survive with numerous large shark species that are constantly after them so perhaps they become tougher, stonger and meaner in the warmer shark infested waters (just a hunch as I am not a marine biologist). Bluefin do have higher fat content per total body weight and can thrive in colder waters, the more muscular YFT lives in warmer waters, the higher fat content is why BFT are the most coveted tuna amongst fish eaters of the world.
IMO, you have to be in pretty good shape, have good flexibility as well as good stamina to land a cow YFT on a spin reel (serious disadvantage with that design when it comes to pure handle torque - "winching power" so the angler and/or a moving boat has to make up the the loss of handle torque when trying to move the fish towards you during the end game. Pulling hard and moving (lifting) a 200lb+ YFT with a more parabolic rod is not an easy task no matter what your age or physical condition is (most of the anglers pulling on and landing those large Bluefin you see photos of are younger guys that are fully decked out with harness and a large rod plate, and they are using shorter length rods on a moving boat, and even then fights go on for many "gut wrenching" hours).
Tight lines!
No, I have caught bluefins over 700 lbs, but never a big yellowfin....the bluefin caught on spinning gear in the link I provided was caught in new zealand...maybe similar to warm water yellowfins. I have caught yellowfins up to 110 lbs or so and actually feel that bluefins fight harder, but I understand I am in the minority. I doubt I will ever catch a big yellowfin as I am not really interested in them as much as giant bluefin tuna.
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08/27/2011 02:18 PM
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fishordie
Joined: 03/14/2007
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re: 9/15 days jigging/popping trip on the Excel from Jan 22 to Feb 6, 2013
Hmmmmm,
Lots of interesting opinions but here is perhaps a different perspective. When I first started long ranging my father gave me his old leather drag Penn and said go have fun. I then got a Jigmaster and then a 6/0 Senator. I dreamed of owning a 12/0 and maybe one day a 16/0. NO such thing as two speed reels except I believe a spinner. My first rod was made by my dad out of Split Bamboo with a home made reel seat and then we obtained some blem. blanks from different fiberglass rod manufacturers wrapping our own rods. Somehow we managed to boat our fair share of bigger fish and I watched as older guys with the bigger gear landed a fair amount of big fish. Yes, there were lots of losses back then but hey, that was part of the game and nobody complained they were taxing the heck out of the gear. It was a challenge being close to Mano y Mano with the fish. Maybe Mano Y Fino with the fish.
With the advent of newer rod materials, better and more powerful/efficient reels and Spectra type lines we are doing things no one ever dreamed of when I was younger. I can assure you those old timers would have kicked anyone of our butts for every putting a rod on the rail and frankly Bill Poole did literally kick my butt for doing what is now considered standard practice on most Long Range boats.
I have already told the story how back in the 60's my dad and I had the precursor of Dyneema which was before Spectra on our reels and Bill again said get that Sh.....t. off my boat as all the so called experts felt it was bad stuff that would saw them off. Gee, I guess that has changed considerably as well.
When I came back to fishing after raising my son I was using what was then considered "Too Small" a reel for Cows. My 30 ATD's I was told were too small for the job. I had discovered these boards and I cannot tell you how many of the So Called experts told me you cannot use a 30 size reel for fishing cows. They felt only 50's better yet 50 wides and better yet 80 size reels. To make matters worse folks were shocked to learn I had Accurate put High speed gears in my reels rather than the socially acceptable lower gear ratios. When I came aboard the Excel with folks I had never met before except my buddy Pat I was greeted with words like "Your Kidding Me" or "Those are too small" (Okay don't go there on that last one), "You are going to get spooled" or the best one was "We don't want to wait for you while you take too long to get your fish in". Well that concept soon changed when NO BODY on the boat out fished me or caught more cows, caught more fish or caught them faster than me. It's not that I was a better fishermen than these guys because I am not and there were some great fishermen on that trip rather I had the edge as I was fishing smaller more efficient reels with lighter line and no swivel to leader connection. This combination was just more efficient for the job. Needless to say the next year on that charter I saw most folks had gone down to 50 size reels and a few joined me with 30's. Well now 30's are standard and many of us are fishing smaller reels. Yet there are still folks saying you should not do that. I may not be Spanish but I can only imagine what would have happened had some dude named Chris Columbus had listened to all the folks saying if he sailed that "Too Small a boat" he would sail off the edge of the world. Well, I am fairly sure should we hook up to cows on spinners or larger tuna we are not going to fall off the edge of the world.
The point is the quality and efficiency of the newer spinners far exceeds what we were using in the 60's and 70's and probably the 80's for the most part yet back then tough men were landing tough fish and digging the experience.
So for those of you who do not believe spinners are worth a darn then certainly do not buy one but for those of us who choose to use them along with Poppers and Jigs then why not live and let live and perhaps, just like many things in fishing which changed from the past, we might have a new addition to add to our live bait fishing
experience.
As a note, though I have not had to use a harness yet on my spinners Braid Products will be adding longer Harness straps to be used with their large line of Harnesses and Plates. Dennis sent me out some prototypes and they look fantastic when combined with the Powerplay line of Harness, Plate and drop straps along with the quick release hooks which come standard. Add in a set of D ringed wrap around nylon straps to go around the rod and foot of the reel and you are good to go. This will make catching big fish on a spinner Much, Much easier though certainly will not be a cake walk.
Jamie
This post edited by fishordie 08/27/2011
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08/27/2011 06:19 PM
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Basil
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re: 9/15 days jigging/popping trip on the Excel from Jan 22 to Feb 6, 2013
Bluefin tuna fished in shallow water on a moving boat are a different story than YFT taken in open water on a large stationary boat.
Ask big daddy don burnside about that next week when he gets back from PEI. Ill let Don fill you in on the details.
Basil Pappas
BHP Tackle
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08/27/2011 08:35 PM
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conchydong
Joined: 11/09/2009
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re: 9/15 days jigging/popping trip on the Excel from Jan 22 to Feb 6, 2013
Garry, give it a rest. I hope these guys land some Baja YFT cows just to shut you up. Quit the negatives and wish them the best.
Everybody in the world knows its easier to fish with conventionals but I admire those who are up to the challenge of fishing with spinners for big fish. Please,..... your posts are tiresome. And no, I have
not personally landed giant tuna on spinners but I am rooting for thse who do.
Relax and "tight lines"
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08/28/2011 12:07 AM
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JigGrinder
Joined: 04/13/2011
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re: 9/15 days jigging/popping trip on the Excel from Jan 22 to Feb 6, 2013
Yeah you are right man, spinning reels are the real deal when LR fishing for cow YFT... what the hell was I thinking anyway, they are even endorsed by expert LR fisherman like "Doc John Tuttle" as well so how could you possibly go wrong using one.
Have FUN knocking em dead guys, I truly hope you get into the larger cow grade YFT on this trip... can't wait to see your photos and live action videos via the Excel's new internet service.
I'll check back for a trip update in about 17 months.
Tight lines!
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08/28/2011 08:14 AM
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Rodless_Jim
Joined: 09/13/2005
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re: 9/15 days jigging/popping trip on the Excel from Jan 22 to Feb 6, 2013
JigGrinder wrote:
Yeah you are right man, spinning reels are the real deal when LR fishing for cow YFT... what the hell was I thinking anyway, they are even endorsed by expert LR fisherman like "Doc John Tuttle" as well so how could you possibly go wrong using one.
Have FUN knocking em dead guys, I truly hope you get into the larger cow grade YFT on this trip... can't wait to see your photos and live action videos via the Excel's new internet service.
I'll check back for a trip update in about 17 months.
Tight lines!
Out of curiosity, from where does your anger spring? I mean you are really taking this whole idea very personally, and it makes no sense. Do you design conventional reels? Or sell them? Have you lost the fish of a lifetime because somebody with a spinning reel cut you off? Is it because real anglers use conventionals?
Why does the concept of this trip take any skin at all off of your nose?
I asked to be included on the list for this trip. I hope to be able to go, and I will plan on it. When I show up at the dock, I won't have a single spinning reel in my collection. Not one. I'll probably have some jigs and poppers, but even on a trip such as this, I mostly plan to use conventional gear to fish live bait. If I decide I want to try fishing a spinner, I'm sure someone will lend me one to try. And if my fishing bait doesn't bother the artificials anglers, why should their fishing jigs and poppers bother me?
Your repeated rants may have convinced some other here, but they only eat up spce as far as I am concerned. Why do you care how others fish, and why should they care about your opinion?
Of course I have doubts about the trip, but mine have much more to do with fishing time. I like the idea of going in and out of Cabo, because that should theoretically mean less travel time to the fishing grounds, and (hopefully!) more time fishing. That is what attracts me to this trip to begin with, along with the FANTASTIC people who are lining up to go. It sounds like an awesome bunch and a great trip. What worries me and makes me think is what other people have said in this thread about the timing. If it really does take so long to get from Cabo to Clarion or the Hurricane Bank, then my assumptions about less travel time might be true, but there will also be much less fishing time than I would like. That would be the one thing that would make me decide to do a different trip.
Your pointless complaining about people trying to catch big tuna on spinning reels? You realize that people have only responded to you out of courtesy right? It's not like you have convinced anyone of anything...except that you are an angry guy who hates spinning reels.
Good for you.
Now can we get back to discussing the trip please?
I Now Have Rods AND Reels, But I Shall Always Remain "Rodless"
meanderingmaunderings.blogspot.com
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08/28/2011 08:32 AM
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299YFT
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re: 9/15 days jigging/popping trip on the Excel from Jan 22 to Feb 6, 2013
Jim:
I hope that you are able to go on the trip.
I think that you will enjoy fishing on the "Big Boat".
Tim Turis
Atlanta GA
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08/28/2011 09:30 AM
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Rodless_Jim
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re: 9/15 days jigging/popping trip on the Excel from Jan 22 to Feb 6, 2013
299YFT wrote:
Jim:
I hope that you are able to go on the trip.
I think that you will enjoy fishing on the "Big Boat".
Thanks Tim, I hope so too. I am sincerely worried, though, about the notion that doing the trip this way will mean just four days on the grounds, and maybe less. Granted, if I fly in and fly out at Cabo, that turns a 15 day trip into a 9 day trip, and my wife would love that. It also would mean less time out of the office, which would make my bosses happy.
But the 15 day trip I took last March on Intrepid got the better part of 7 days in the zone, and even that wasn't too much for me. The ride down was long, yes, and the ride back even more so (in rough weather, unfortunately), but I loved the experience, and would kill to have even an extra day or two at the rail down where the big fish live.
There is another trip on the Excel's schedule that intrigues me, one I hope to be able to take someday. especially if I don't get another chance to fish the Big E before then. That is the Ralph Mikklesen Big Fish Special, which is a 17-day trip. That sounds like exactly the trip I'd want to take if I can be away from the office for three weeks. I would like to be on it in April 2012, but that may not be possible.
Given the limitations of my schedule, at least the way things stand right now, the JIGNPOP.com charter sounds ideal. I think it would be GREAT if the total trip length was extended to be 16 days instead of 15. It's hard to argue with a 10 day trip (10 days on the boat that is) with 5 days in the zone. Not sure that could happen, but I'll cross my fingers.
In any case, there are still a few boats I would like to try, and Excel is at the top of that list. If I can go on this particular trip, I'll be very pleased indeed.
I Now Have Rods AND Reels, But I Shall Always Remain "Rodless"
meanderingmaunderings.blogspot.com
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08/28/2011 09:49 AM
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Oakey520
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re: 9/15 days jigging/popping trip on the Excel from Jan 22 to Feb 6, 2013
Rodless_Jim wrote:
JigGrinder wrote:
Yeah you are right man, spinning reels are the real deal when LR fishing for cow YFT... what the hell was I thinking anyway, they are even endorsed by expert LR fisherman like "Doc John Tuttle" as well so how could you possibly go wrong using one.
Have FUN knocking em dead guys, I truly hope you get into the larger cow grade YFT on this trip... can't wait to see your photos and live action videos via the Excel's new internet service.
I'll check back for a trip update in about 17 months.
Tight lines!
Out of curiosity, from where does your anger spring? I mean you are really taking this whole idea very personally, and it makes no sense. Do you design conventional reels? Or sell them? Have you lost the fish of a lifetime because somebody with a spinning reel cut you off? Is it because real anglers use conventionals?
Why does the concept of this trip take any skin at all off of your nose?
I asked to be included on the list for this trip. I hope to be able to go, and I will plan on it. When I show up at the dock, I won't have a single spinning reel in my collection. Not one. I'll probably have some jigs and poppers, but even on a trip such as this, I mostly plan to use conventional gear to fish live bait. If I decide I want to try fishing a spinner, I'm sure someone will lend me one to try. And if my fishing bait doesn't bother the artificials anglers, why should their fishing jigs and poppers bother me?
Your repeated rants may have convinced some other here, but they only eat up spce as far as I am concerned. Why do you care how others fish, and why should they care about your opinion?
Of course I have doubts about the trip, but mine have much more to do with fishing time. I like the idea of going in and out of Cabo, because that should theoretically mean less travel time to the fishing grounds, and (hopefully!) more time fishing. That is what attracts me to this trip to begin with, along with the FANTASTIC people who are lining up to go. It sounds like an awesome bunch and a great trip. What worries me and makes me think is what other people have said in this thread about the timing. If it really does take so long to get from Cabo to Clarion or the Hurricane Bank, then my assumptions about less travel time might be true, but there will also be much less fishing time than I would like. That would be the one thing that would make me decide to do a different trip.
Your pointless complaining about people trying to catch big tuna on spinning reels? You realize that people have only responded to you out of courtesy right? It's not like you have convinced anyone of anything...except that you are an angry guy who hates spinning reels.
Good for you.
Now can we get back to discussing the trip please?
Many people feel that fishing for big tuna with spinning gear is nothing more then stunt fishing. That giant tuna that was landed on a spinner is making people cringe because now a whole army of guys from all over the globe could potentially descend on giant tuna spots like pei, gloucester ma etc trying to catch one with spinning tackle. The result will be a bunch of fish trailing hundreds of yards of line and probably end up dying while they "test" their equipment. I am sure a few will be caught, but who knows. I am sure some feel the same way about doing this with big yellowfins, but the poster even said he is not going to target the real large fish....in all honesty, there are people that love this trend and there are many, many people that absolutely despise people from other countries descending on their fishing spots armed to the teeth with spinning tackle and fishing uniforms. It drives folks nuts. Please keep in mind that there is a lot of jealousy involved as well. The circle of guys that post on the internet on east coast and west coast boards about jigging and popping are well to do folks that can spend 50-100 grand or more a year traveling the globe then posting reports about it. That drives guys insane. It leads to finger pointing, keeping up with the joneses etc. I have had many conversations about this with alot of guys...I would say the opinions are split down the middle. Some love it, some hate everything about it... time will tell the whole story...will this be a permanent trend in big game fishing or just a footnote...depends on technology and technique I guess... I have no opinions either way, but I do feel that nobody has a right to tell someone else how to enjoy fishing. If it is done responsibly and people are not just out there hooking fish after fish only to get spooled, just so they can get a couple hero shots with a rod in their mouth for the computer, then I say go for it, enjoy, and the best of luck.
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