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  02/05/2010 02:19 PM
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pierguy


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BUSTED!! BSB guy on the hook now!!

http://video.foxnews.com/v/4000167/big-catch-lands-fisherman-in-hot-water


yank um' & crank um'
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  02/05/2010 03:59 PM
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reel man


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re: BUSTED!! BSB guy on the hook now!!

Ignorance is no excuse. Finger

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  02/05/2010 04:05 PM
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BillP

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re: BUSTED!! BSB guy on the hook now!!

Jerry, in your opinion what should the punishment be?

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  02/05/2010 05:37 PM
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smokemaster

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re: BUSTED!! BSB guy on the hook now!!

Don't think the guy should get jail time if he truely didn't know...

But I find it hard to beleive nobody on the pier knew what the fish was and whoever knew didn't tell him what it was.

I think he did know what it was before they dragged it on shore for the photo op.
But I wasn't there and couldn't hear anyone yelling Black Seabass in the videos.

He should get LOTS of community service hours scraping bird crap off the pier rail and or working at a fish raising facility for the DFG or at the WSB growout pens.

Teach him to respect the fish he catches and learn what he is supposed to do when he catches something else that needs a quick release back into the water.


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  02/05/2010 06:35 PM
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Mojomizer

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re: BUSTED!! BSB guy on the hook now!!

The guy on the boat technically is just as guilty. The line broke he came up and put a couple of grappling hooks in the fishes mouth. At one point the fish if righted could have made it back down under the care of the boater.

The boater also endangered his kids. No way should he have been that close to the pier having his kids grab a grappling hook or manuever his boat that close to the shoreline.

We know the make of his boat and the name of his boat.

How can ignorance from the fisherman. Ignorance of the boater. Ignorance of the crowd clapping their hands. Ignorance of the media reporting this happen. These are the same people voting and mandating regulations on our fisheries.

It is up to us fishermen and local fishing organizations to help teach the general public, media and politicians what our recreation is all about. The dfg should post protected species and size regulations on the pier. Everyone should carry a regulation booklet in their tackle box , on their person or on their boat.

As much as I hate to open this can of worms. Hunters are required to pass a hunter education course before getting a hunting license. Should fishermen or boaters be required to pass a course too.

The people involved should have the same penalties as if you or I showed up at the dock with a 125 lb. Black Seabass.

Smokemaster review all the you tube video's


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Part1 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a5-BCBlyjt8&feature=related
Part2 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5-r1Z7H8Qgk&feature=related
Part3 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mzyQmSusmhk&feature=related
Part4 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bzw5LDkewqk&feature=related
Part5 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sO2mP-dKQWM&feature=related
Part6 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yvrFbggfpyo&feature=related
Part7 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5qilk_prFD4&feature=related
Part8 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FUXtOvbMzgc&feature=related

Part5 upsets me alot.


Arrrrrrrgh.

Mark
2325 Wa Pacificskiff


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  02/05/2010 07:53 PM
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Mullet

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re: BUSTED!! BSB guy on the hook now!!

This guy wasn't fishing an ugly stick zebco reel,
he knew what was up.
He talked a lot of trash,till things got serious.

Now he's trying to back pedal,little to late in the game.
If this is your average pier angler,they all need to be
licensed and aware of the regs.

This sack makes all look bad,make them all aware.
JMHO,Mike

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  02/05/2010 08:51 PM
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reel man


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re: BUSTED!! BSB guy on the hook now!!

Bill, he should receive the punishment required by the laws on the books which may be a fine or imprisonment, but that will up to a judge.
Would also be nice, but it won't happen, if the media ran a follow up story on the guys punishment.

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  02/05/2010 09:54 PM
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bassnet


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re: BUSTED!! BSB guy on the hook now!!

Mullet wrote:

This guy wasn't fishing an ugly stick zebco reel,
he knew what was up.
He talked a lot of trash,till things got serious.

Now he's trying to back pedal,little to late in the game.
If this is your average pier angler,they all need to be
licensed and aware of the regs.

This sack makes all look bad,make them all aware.
JMHO,Mike



what Mike said up

Book him, Dano!


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  02/07/2010 10:04 AM
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paulskier

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re: BUSTED!! BSB guy on the hook now!!

Sitting on a pier and did not know a thing about the fish-------

BUT now he knows enuf to have a lawyer-----------

AND he has a story that proclaims how innocent he is----

SO he should be completely absolved of wrongdoing?????

BULLSH*# IMO

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  02/07/2010 12:27 PM
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pierguy


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re: BUSTED!! BSB guy on the hook now!!

Yea, how about the guy selling his T-shirts on-line for his defense fund?




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  02/07/2010 12:33 PM
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etwizard


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re: BUSTED!! BSB guy on the hook now!!

pierguy wrote:

http://video.foxnews.com/v/4000167/big-catch-lands-fisherman-in-hot-water noshade size=1 color=#909090>


You guys are jumping on this guy like he is some jerk who caught, sliced and diced this fish for a deep fry. It is not what I saw. You can impune his motives for fishing with what he fished with if you like, but that rig in that place could have caught a lot of different species. The video appears to show that at the end of the day, he hooked this fish, unknown species, fought it, brought it in, had ALOT of assistance from an unknown zealot and their hook, brought the fish to shore, removed the hooks and tried at length to revive the fish. After about 10 minutes of trying the get water across the gills of this fish, he released this fish to swim on its own. What the h*** would you do? Why are you throwing this guy under the bus?

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  02/07/2010 08:53 PM
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blackfish


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re: BUSTED!! BSB guy on the hook now!!

etwizard wrote:

pierguy wrote:

http://video.foxnews.com/v/4000167/big-catch-lands-fisherman-in-hot-water noshade size=1 color=#909090>


You guys are jumping on this guy like he is some jerk who caught, sliced and diced this fish for a deep fry. It is not what I saw. You can impune his motives for fishing with what he fished with if you like, but that rig in that place could have caught a lot of different species. The video appears to show that at the end of the day, he hooked this fish, unknown species, fought it, brought it in, had ALOT of assistance from an unknown zealot and their hook, brought the fish to shore, removed the hooks and tried at length to revive the fish. After about 10 minutes of trying the get water across the gills of this fish, he released this fish to swim on its own. What the h*** would you do? Why are you throwing this guy under the bus?




I have followed this from day one....


You are just as blind as the "stupid" angler (yes "stupid", as I have come to a conclusion that this person chose to violate DFG laws). I have watched ALL the videos, and read his arrogant and smart ass replies to the comment sections of the videos on youtube, which he quickly removed/deleted once he realized his ass was grass....this guy is riding the wave created by "ignorant" people like yourself, and he's now playing the victim card...if you can't see this, then you are as as blind as he is.

I was willing to give the guy some slack, but now, i hope he is punished to the fullest extent of the law.

http://www.bloodydecks.com/forums/inshore-islands-fishing-reports-southern-california/180676-bsb-thread-story-updated.html

http://www.allcoast.com/discussion/ViewTopic.cfm?topic_ID=104218&page=3#id100646908


http://www.bloodydecks.com/forums/inshore-islands-fishing-reports-southern-california/188887-bsb-balboa-pier-anyone-have-info.html



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=34V7Ck9KASU


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  02/07/2010 09:46 PM
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etwizard


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re: BUSTED!! BSB guy on the hook now!!

blackfish wrote:

etwizard wrote:

pierguy wrote:

http://video.foxnews.com/v/4000167/big-catch-lands-fisherman-in-hot-water




You guys are jumping on this guy like he is some jerk who caught, sliced and diced this fish for a deep fry. It is not what I saw. You can impune his motives for fishing with what he fished with if you like, but that rig in that place could have caught a lot of different species. The video appears to show that at the end of the day, he hooked this fish, unknown species, fought it, brought it in, had ALOT of assistance from an unknown zealot and their hook, brought the fish to shore, removed the hooks and tried at length to revive the fish. After about 10 minutes of trying the get water across the gills of this fish, he released this fish to swim on its own. What the h*** would you do? Why are you throwing this guy under the bus?




I have followed this from day one....


You are just as blind as the "stupid" angler (yes "stupid", as I have come to a conclusion that this person chose to violate DFG laws). I have watched ALL the videos, and read his arrogant and smart ass replies to the comment sections of the videos on youtube, which he quickly removed/deleted once he realized his ass was grass....this guy is riding the wave created by "ignorant" people like yourself, and he's now playing the victim card...if you can't see this, then you are as as blind as he is.

I was willing to give the guy some slack, but now, i hope he is punished to the fullest extent of the law.

http://www.bloodydecks.com/forums/inshore-islands-fishing-reports-southern-california/180676-bsb-thread-story-updated.html

http://www.allcoast.com/discussion/ViewTopic.cfm?topic_ID=104218&page=3#id100646908


http://www.bloodydecks.com/forums/inshore-islands-fishing-reports-southern-california/188887-bsb-balboa-pier-anyone-have-info.html




So maybe I'm blind, and deaf. Seems like I walked right into a thread that is weeks old and this has been boiling for two three weeks now. Quite a boil ya got goin. So before you add me to this pot, I'm going to withdraw from this burner. Cook it as you see fit. I said my say over what I read. Perhaps I didn't read all that was out there. Didn't know there was more. Still and all, if the guy was full o st*t than hang'im

Wasn't there and will never know. What I do know is there are some on this thread that seem to have forgotten that you don't have to beat up the world to make your point. Perhaps they live really close to the fire and and you're always on fire. Don't know. I do know that this can be a dangerous place to not agree.

Good luck. Hope you're always right.


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  02/07/2010 11:11 PM
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TAURUS

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re: BUSTED!! BSB guy on the hook now!!

personally, i don't see the big deal...i'm sure the guy did not wake up that morning and say 'today i'm going to catch and kill a black sea bass'.

$hit happens, it's clear to me that they handled the whole thing badly....it's not how most anglers would have handled it. but none the less, it is obvious that he was making an attempt at releasing it in the end....any lawyer worth his salt will get him off the hook(pun intended).

i find it strange that the 'band wagon' wants his head on a pike...i also find the outrage amusing and hypocritical...i think the same people that are outraged by this don't give a second thought to waking up in the morning with plans to catch and release a fish...tricking some poor fish into thinking it has an easy meal and forcing a hook deep into its mouth...taking the chance of killing a fish simply for thier own selfish pleasure..

it's easy to sit back and judge someones actions while justifying your own..cut the guy a little slack, he was obviously not intending to catch a sea bass that day.

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  02/08/2010 05:31 AM
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mogandave

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re: BUSTED!! BSB guy on the hook now!!

TAURUS wrote:

personally, i don't see the big deal...i'm sure the guy did not wake up that morning and say 'today i'm going to catch and kill a black sea bass'.

$hit happens, it's clear to me that they handled the whole thing badly....it's not how most anglers would have handled it. but none the less, it is obvious that he was making an attempt at releasing it in the end....any lawyer worth his salt will get him off the hook(pun intended).

i find it strange that the 'band wagon' wants his head on a pike...i also find the outrage amusing and hypocritical...i think the same people that are outraged by this don't give a second thought to waking up in the morning with plans to catch and release a fish...tricking some poor fish into thinking it has an easy meal and forcing a hook deep into its mouth...taking the chance of killing a fish simply for thier own selfish pleasure..

it's easy to sit back and judge someones actions while justifying your own..cut the guy a little slack, he was obviously not intending to catch a sea bass that day.



My position exactly


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