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  09/04/2006 04:01 AM
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SCRATCHER

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Favorite Cow Knot ?

I have been wondering what the best knot to use on a fall 10 day I have coming up (my first) and I hope you vets have some input. Palomar, Triple Palomar, SD Jam knot, cinch or improved cinch etc. What has been most sucessful on the bigger models ? Thanks for the advise, Glenn
I have a crimp kit that I plan putting to use. I just wondered what some guys out there think is the stongest knot with heavy line. Hoping for Da-iry.

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  09/04/2006 05:23 AM
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Serenity Now


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RE: Favorite Cow Knot ?

I would crimp the big stuff (over 100). Up to 100, I likethe Trilene or the inproved Trilene (Fleck Knot). Has a much lower profile than most of the others.

Start practicing now so you get proficient at what feels comfortable to you. I keep line in my desk and keep my wife amused by some of my activities. "What are you doing with that Bag Balm"




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  09/04/2006 09:39 AM
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rinkeswa

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RE: Favorite Cow Knot ?

Whatever knot you choose, practice until you can tie it blindfolded, and then destructively test it for confidence. My favo splice (for 100+) is the two turn Seaguar, and my favo terminal knot is a single SDjam or spring/crimp - once again test to destruction. On the boat, always test your knots/crimps severely on the tackle station rings.


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  09/04/2006 09:45 AM
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Holi_e_Mackeral


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Strong knots.

There are a couple of knots that are preferred for heavy line applications..

The two knots that wind the knot tying competition every year at the Izorline booth at Fred Hall are: SD Jam and the Double uni.. they both feature a double line through the eye of the hook...

SD Jam..

http://www.marlinnut.com/knots/sandiego.shtml

http://www.ct-outfitters.com/images/knots/fishing_knots_page.htm#San%20Diego%20Jam%20Knot

Uni
knot... you will double the line through the eye...

http://www.fish4fun.com/Lines_to_Tackle.htm

http://www.anglerscenter.com/knot_trilene.htm

More
information on additional knots...

http://www.anglerscenter.com/Fishing%20Knots.htm


I
have used them both without failure. The SD Jam has a smaller profile than the double uni.. so many anglers like that knot..

For anything heavier than 100 # I usually use a crimp..




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  09/04/2006 10:03 AM
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themacs


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RE: Favorite Cow Knot ?

When fishing for cows, I crimp. If you have to tie a fast knot (or can't crimp for some reason), I would (and do) use a double San Diego.

JMO

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  09/04/2006 10:07 AM
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Bill W


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RE: Favorite Cow Knot ?

I like the double uni. It does not cut on itself like other knots after a long fight. Does not slip. Easy to tie and usually stronger than the line. Placed 2nd on the knot contest at San Diego on this knot at the Izorline booth a couple of years ago.

But I am limited to two sucessful cows in my fishing history and used the double San Diego for those two.

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  09/04/2006 01:26 PM
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RE: Favorite Cow Knot ?

Last year I used a knot Frank named the San Choate. I don't know, doesn't work well in some applications, but worked on 3 cows for me.
Usually the Fleck Improved Trilene.


Prostaff for: Accurate, Seeker, Seaguar, Catchy Tackle, Five Star Fish Processing, Intrepid

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  09/04/2006 02:04 PM
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Ishmael


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RE: Favorite Cow Knot ?

At last years Fred Hall show Rose Burns gave me a piece of 600# Soft Steel to play with...


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  09/04/2006 03:15 PM
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sactotuna


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RE: Favorite Cow Knot ?

Where knot size is not an issue: double SD
Where knot size is an issue: trilene, three wraps up, two back down
Crimping is as much a learned skill as knot tying!
Practice, practice, practice.


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  09/04/2006 07:23 PM
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ironmike


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RE: Favorite Cow Knot ?

I landed 6 fish of 170 to 295 last year on a 3 turn double uni. I dont like the trilene on the bigger line becasue of the way it twists/burns the line.

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  09/05/2006 03:47 AM
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JL

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RE: Favorite Cow Knot ?

I second the "double UNI", or the "Erwin".
The Erwin knot is a lot smaller than the SD knot. We were using the Erwin up to 200# mono on the Shogun last year during the big bites.

JL

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  09/05/2006 04:06 AM
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wahoodad


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RE: Favorite Cow Knot ?

Refer back to Ishmaels photo Ironmike. No burning at all.


Prostaff for: Accurate, Seeker, Seaguar, Catchy Tackle, Five Star Fish Processing, Intrepid

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  09/05/2006 05:06 AM
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ironmike


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RE: Favorite Cow Knot ?

I must not be doing something right. The way I was taught, creates the twisting.
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  09/05/2006 05:21 AM
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jiggermyster


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RE: Favorite Cow Knot ?

Miller knot went 10 for 10 at cowtown last year. 9 on 150# and one on unknown #. A guy asked me to retie for him after he busted one off...



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I got my fill of cows in the fall of 2005
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  09/05/2006 05:47 AM
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bill7881

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RE: Strong knots.

HeM-

The illustrations for the SD jam show one loop thru the eye. Are you doubling the line to tie the knot(I do this for lures) or simply going thru the eye twice with the single line?

Bill

>The two knots that wind the knot tying competition every year
>at the Izorline booth at Fred Hall are: SD Jam and the Double
>uni.. they both feature a "double line" through the eye of the
>hook...
>
>SD Jam..
>
>http://www.marlinnut.com/knots/sandiego.shtml
>
>http://www.ct-outfitters.com/images/knots/fishing_knots_page.htm#San%20Diego%20Jam%20Knot


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