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walkerman said:
Are accurates better than avets enough to justify the price.
Is one a better jig-tossing reel, and one a better bait/yo-yo reel?
considering the 40-50# line types.[/quote

Sorta like some one else posted....like comparing a Lexus with a Toyota....

I have both and the Lexus is just more refined...smoother ride better electronics and attention to small details...but both are well built cars.

the area where the Accurates IMO beat the Avets are the drags....

Accurate drags are IMO just the best in the industry. All the above is JMO
 

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Better? Both give you your money's worth IMO. Pay more, get more...pay less, get less. Kinda like comparing a Ford Superduty 350 to a Dodge Ram 1500 IMO. Both could haul a cow tuna. ;) The Accurate Superduty can handle alot more though.

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I think it depends on how you fish it. The LX 6/3 is fine for me with 40# mono. But for my 60# rig, I wanted higher specs and so went with the Accurate 665w B2. I could fish straight 80# on the accurate also, which I wanted as an option.

So at 40-50#, you are right in the middle where I crossed over to the accurate and determined it was worth it.

But, if you want 1/3 drag on 50# line, the LX is gonna be close to maxing out right there. I don't want to push a reel to its limits.
 

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Both companies make wonderful reels.

The biggest advantage of the new accurate two speeds is you can fish a wider range of line gauge on the Accurates. As someone else noted you can get one heck of a bunch of drag on these new Accurates. I have heard of folks fishing up to 80 pound on the new 870's and they work great. I actually have a platinum knob on one of my 870's just because this little/big reel has the crankability to handle it. You can also easily line down to 30 pound. All this on one reel. Those who fish Avets seem to love them as well but they will not have the range of these new two speeds from Accurate.

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fishybuzz said:
walkerman said:
Are accurates better than avets enough to justify the price.
Is one a better jig-tossing reel, and one a better bait/yo-yo reel?
considering the 40-50# line types.[/quote

Sorta like some one else posted....like comparing a Lexus with a Toyota....

I have both and the Lexus is just more refined...smoother ride better electronics and attention to small details...but both are well built cars.

the area where the Accurates IMO beat the Avets are the drags....

Accurate drags are IMO just the best in the industry. All the above is JMO
How do the two compare when casting jigs?
 

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walkerman said:
fishybuzz said:
walkerman said:
Are accurates better than avets enough to justify the price. Is one a better jig-tossing reel, and one a better bait/yo-yo reel? considering the 40-50# line types.[/quote Sorta like some one else posted....like comparing a Lexus with a Toyota.... I have both and the Lexus is just more refined...smoother ride better electronics and attention to small details...but both are well built cars. the area where the Accurates IMO beat the Avets are the drags.... Accurate drags are IMO just the best in the industry. All the above is JMO
How do the two compare when casting jigs?
Before Accurate put a cast control on the boss series the Avets were easier to cast jigs, now I would say they are the same...IMO neither casts as well as a star drag conventional reel....

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I got 35# on mine easy. Freespool is not affected, but it is harder to get the leverdrag engaged at the higher setting.

Another really cool thing about the Accurate is the short throw conversion. I did it, and like it alot. It allows you to go into gear immediately without the ramp up.

To the original question, is it worth the extra money. Yes, but only if you need the features the accurate has. Like I said, I do for 60# so it was worth it, but I don't for 40#, which is why I have the Avet.
 

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Are accurates better than avets enough to justify the price. Is one a better jig-tossing reel, and one a better bait/yo-yo reel? considering the 40-50# line types.
Lots of comments made already that I agree with: - B2-870 drags range is suited to 30-50/60lb range. Maybe the B2-870 can do more but for me that range more suited to the B2-665ADT12. - JX2/LX2 I would fish up to 50lb - Accurate drags are smoother. - casting is about equal although I think the JX2 spool might start up a bit quicker/lighter than the Accurate B2-870 spool. - I have both. I would add: - not just the drags but everything about the B2 series is smoother, more refined. - I tend to pull my B2-870 out first as it is fun to fish casting, retrieving, and when hooked up. - eBay prices have the JX2 about $380? the B2-870 around $535? - If I had to choose one reel I would get the B2-870 for the extra $150 or so. - at Cedros last summer we were fishing that really nice grade of yellowtail. I started using a single speed 270 and it was by far the most fun. I pulled out the B2-870 and with 40lb test/low gear it was just no contest. But if that price tag exceeds your budget/tastes though there is no doubt the JX2 can get the job done. My 2 cents...

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OK....say I have decided on the accurates. If I want to start off with 2 of them, one for forty and one for fifty, which two do I get. Given that they are 2 speeds, I assume I could use them for bait and jig, until I expand my arsenal.
Let me say thanks for all the help I have gotten here. It really is a useful resource for the novice long-ranger.
 

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I have two single speed LX Avets and a B2-870, in my opinion, the Accurate product is significantly nicer. Aside from the looks, I never liked the Avets, and ultimately gave one away. I loved the Accurate from the first day, and I?m buying a new 270 for my five day in July.

IMO, the two-speed for fifty and under is kind of useless on these smaller reels. I used the B-2 870 on a 700H 90% of the time on my last ten day and aside from just wanting to try it, I never used the low gear, and I put a lot of nice fish on the boat.

Were it me I?d get the 270 single-speed for 30-50 and the 870 2-speed for 40-60
 

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I have An Avet JX, a B2 870 and a B2 665. 870 B2 is a great reel for 40/50. Lever gets a bit harder to push as you get into the higher drag settings. Drags can handle it, but I would stick to 40/50 on it. 665 is a beast. Can easily fish 60 on it.

I can cast the JX farther than the 870. Great little reel that destroyed the Yellows at Cedros last year. If I had just had that reel, I would not have had any difficulties at all. I also used a B2 870. Yes, it was smoother than the Avet. You can certainly feel the difference between the two reels. Accurate feels far more robust.

However, the JX/LX are very fine reels that will handle just about anything you will encounter. Do you need the Accurate--probably not.

If you are set on the Accurates, I would go with and 870 and a 665. Lots of range there. If not, you will be fine with the Avet and use the extra $$ for an extra one day trip.

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walkerman said:
OK....say I have decided on the accurates. If I want to start off with 2 of them, one for forty and one for fifty, which two do I get. Given that they are 2 speeds, I assume I could use them for bait and jig, until I expand my arsenal.
Let me say thanks for all the help I have gotten here. It really is a useful resource for the novice long-ranger.
I own the entire line-up of Accus and have a question for you (before I can answer yours). How many days is your LR trip? The longer the trip, the more line capacity I want. I use LTL connections and fish everything from 20-50lb on my B270 but if i'm going 10 days or more, want more capacity and use my B870 & B665 for 50lb. Depends on what grade of fish you might most likely be getting.
 

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walkerman said:
OK....say I have decided on the accurates. If I want to start off with 2 of them, one for forty and one for fifty, which two do I get. Given that they are 2 speeds, I assume I could use them for bait and jig, until I expand my arsenal.
Let me say thanks for all the help I have gotten here. It really is a useful resource for the novice long-ranger.
I own the entire line-up of Accus and have a question for you (before I can answer yours). How many days is your LR trip? The longer the trip, the more line capacity I want. I use LTL connections and fish everything from 20-50lb on my B270 but if i'm going 10 days or more, want more capacity and use my B870 & B665 for 50lb. Depends on what grade of fish you might most likely be getting.
This is a 6.5 day trip. However, it is the first of what I hope will be many, and so, these will just be the beginning of my TAS (tackle aquisition syndrome). As I stated on another board, I have the light stuff from all of my local fishing, and at the other end, I have a Penn International 30S II, and 2 50S II's. So, I am looking to fill in the middle 40/50/60# stuff. I am hoping to get 2 reels for this trip which will cover that range of line, and be OK to use for both jig fishing and bait/yoyo fishing. Later on, I can get more "specialized" stuff. I have a calstar 700 and a 6480 to use them on.
 

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walkerman said:
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walkerman said:
OK....say I have decided on the accurates. If I want to start off with 2 of them, one for forty and one for fifty, which two do I get. Given that they are 2 speeds, I assume I could use them for bait and jig, until I expand my arsenal. Let me say thanks for all the help I have gotten here. It really is a useful resource for the novice long-ranger.
I own the entire line-up of Accus and have a question for you (before I can answer yours). How many days is your LR trip? The longer the trip, the more line capacity I want. I use LTL connections and fish everything from 20-50lb on my B270 but if i'm going 10 days or more, want more capacity and use my B870 & B665 for 50lb. Depends on what grade of fish you might most likely be getting.
This is a 6.5 day trip. However, it is the first of what I hope will be many, and so, these will just be the beginning of my TAS (tackle aquisition syndrome). As I stated on another board, I have the light stuff from all of my local fishing, and at the other end, I have a Penn International 30S II, and 2 50S II's. So, I am looking to fill in the middle 40/50/60# stuff. I am hoping to get 2 reels for this trip which will cover that range of line, and be OK to use for both jig fishing and bait/yoyo fishing. Later on, I can get more "specialized" stuff. I have a calstar 700 and a 6480 to use them on.
Calstar 700 and 6480, 40/50, not 60. 65 spectra w/short topshot of 40/50, watched two very good, veteran anglers get spooled three times at Alijos (long soak)w/ JX and 870. We were on YFTs to 130 that year. Better a LX or 665 IMO. Both Avets and Accurates have better than adequate freespool and better than adequate smooth drags. If you don't, it's not the reel, it's not maintained correctly. My prob w/accurate B2s are the wuss 3 1/2 to 4#s from strike to full. Yes, I asked about this. Was told this is standard/normal. No, there is no upgrade cam. So, start heavy to begin with on B2s, I guess. Both very good reels, take your pick. Bait/jig/yo-yo, maybe a Baja Sp. for the 6480 and LX or 665 for the 700. My 1/2 cent. REK.

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I can get 55lbs of drag (max) outta my B270 and have a drag spread of 10lb between strike & full. I set the reel at 10lbs at strike and got 20 at full. My reels are the original models that were upgraded annually.

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I can get 55lbs of drag outta my B270 and have a drag spread of 10lb between strike & full. My reels are the original models that were upgraded annually.
I don't need nor want 55#s of drag @ strike on a 270 size reel. Heck, I don't need that on a 50 @ strike. I just wanted more than 3 1/2 #s between strike and full on and 870 or 665.:?

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