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Ok guys look, I know you are all die hard conventional jig tossers, so bear with me here. I have a habit of choking when there are fish boiling on the surface and I'm in my kayak, and I have to throw a jig far, quick. Sure, I could hone my conventional casting skills (I intend to), but I would like to try spinning gear- I am way more confident that I can perform under pressure with a spinning outfit, and I have a bunch of trips coming up soon. The questions is whether a rod could be made that would work for traveling. That would mean..gasp..a 2 piece rod. I travel a bunch and my experience is that anything over 7 feet is a pain to carry on planes. They get all puckered up as it is with my gear so I want the rod to fit in my 7 foot PVC rod tube. Thus the question is, can an 8 foot spinning rod be built so that it can handle 40-50 pound yellows and tuna? I will be using it mainly for those occasions where the fish are on or near the surface, and I'll be throwing jigs and poppers. If your answer is yes, please tell me who makes them, and if they're custom, details please. Tx in advance guys, Bluewater Jon Schwartz
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Sure there are but they are generally not cheap. For an 8 ft I would look at the Smith 80p/35 that is sold by Anglers Pro Shop in New York. You can buy a finished rod or a kit to build your own. OTI in Richardson Texas makes a couple of rods also that would fit your specs. All these rods are build on the 30/70 two piece where the butt section is about 30 inches and the tip section is 6ft or under. The Smith is an 8 ft and the OTI is a 7.5 ft. Put on a Shimano Stella and you have an outfit that will outfish many conventional outfits. The heavy OTI is rated for 80 lb test line. Lamiglass makes a tropic Pro that is 8.5 ft but is in the 50/50 ferrule configuration that may fit your requirements also.
 

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Jon, post this question on the rod building board here, and in particular email the moderator J_AkuHed. Jim build a spinning rod that I have used many times to land a limit of albacore quickly by tossing poppers, small iron or live bait to 'em so as to get free to man a camera during an exceptionally hot bite .
While the rod here is not something normally related as a jig stick, he or one of the other real rod experts there will either have a great idea to accomplish what you want and need, or will tell you to just have what you want or need made, OR will possibly even offer to do it at a nominally good price. :p The reel there is a Tica Abyss TF10007 with 25 pound P-line CXX line. More than enough gear for the job!

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ahi248 said:
The guys at OTI are also working on a 8.5 foot spinner similar to their 7.5 foot models

Bluewater Jon, Jureal's post sound familiar...lol
Yes, Gil....I'll get off the soapbox soon. This as you know has been a personal quest of mine. I like the 30-70 ferrule placement as it is where the rod typically does not bend much. At the recent west coast rod building show, I asked Bill Batson why he does not pursue the 30-70 configuration much like the rods coming out of Japan and his reply was the typical no market for it right now. Yet Anglers Pro is sold out on the 80p/35 and OTI quickly sold out on their first shipment and are close to selling out the second shipment. The question posed was not only about spinning rods but also traveling without the burden of a long rod. For me, these blanks fit the bill perfectly and I bought all three blanks before they got sold out although I still have not built two of them. Seems that here on the west coast, we do not cherish this style of fishing yet but as this thread demonstrates, things are changing. Most do not know that the Stella is capable of drag settings exceeding most conventional reels and we are now looking for rods to match that of the reels. Thus far, other than OTI, the blanks for these rods have been coming out of Japan.
 

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Mel, I mentioned the same stuff you listed on your first post...lol Yup, should have gotten an OTI when they had a sale a few months ago. Kilsong looks like he has a prototype 8.5 footer from OTI

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jureal said:
Seems that here on the west coast, we do not cherish this style of fishing yet but as this thread demonstrates, things are changing.
Yup, I agree. Things are changing...albeit slowly.

For the 2 day Pinoy Boys charter, I've already decided to only bring spinning gear...:tu:
 

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I love the new spinning gear..... I had the same issue...I wanted a 8 1/2 2 piece rod....well I got a factory Lamiglas rated 30# to 50#... 2 piece this is the one Jureal mentioned..I use a twin power 8000 reel with it...biggest fish with it so far is a 40# yft on a popper. I love it for throwing poppers and surface jigs. Jureal is right.... my stella 10000 will generate more drag than most of my two speeds...58#

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re: Can you get me a coffee please?

Coffee grinder mentality will soon change. Even some of the SD long range skippers know about the improved spinning reels like the Stellas, Twinpowers, Sustains, Satigas ..... and yes HD even the ACCURATE Twin Spin :\
 

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Take a look at Capt Harry's web site and you'll see that a spinning outfit is capablr of handling fish larger then you are. I think that you might have problems fishing out of a small boat with one of them, but the same would apply to a standup outfit out of a Yak. I have a pair of Hopper rods one (a 270) with a Fin nor 65 and 65 lb spectra and another (a 500) with a Fin Nor 95 loaded with 80 lb Cortland Spectra. No problems with Tarpon, Sharks, Sails, AJ's, Jewfish and Tuna to date. Plus they are under $300 ea for both the rod and reel not including the line. Those reels are bullet proof just make sure to look at the offshore series. He has a video on his site that shows him getting beat up by some Groupers and the crazy rods (5'8") work great. Personally I think that I can put just as much drag on a fish with the 95 as I can apply with a 50 Wide Give them a look. Tight Lines.
 

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I have used Fishy's set up twice last year,,,,,,,,,, its a killer setup. Matter of fact, he had one on an let the skipper fight it, asked if wanted to try it again, said, hell no,,,,,,, beats me up. It will if you let it, has more drag then anyone needs and will do the trick in no time. I think there is a video of Fishy fighting a YT and bringing it to gaff in less then a min, an it was a real nice size YT. Fishy, were is that Video?


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I've been fiddling with a spinning outfit recently.

I've found one problem using a spinner on my kayak. The position of the reel, hanging below the rod, forces me to hold the rod up higher, at a (for me) unnatural angle when sitting in a kayak. Not as comfortable for longer fights.

So, if someone is thinking of using a spinning outfit on a yak for the first time, I'd suggest trying an inexpensive reel first before commiting to the excellent but expensive Stellas, etc.

I did catch a really nice leopard grouper a couple of days ago on a spinning outfit on my kayak, tossing a light Spooferette lure, first time fishing a Spoofer in decades.:)
 

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re: Can you get me a coffee please?

This is just one of the hundreds of photo's on the internet, showing large fish caught on spinning reels.
Isn't it Amazing that Flat Earther's still exist! LoL!!! Neptune *


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