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>I don't remember saying I supported the plan, not once.
>And I know I'm going to get roasted for my position.
>
>Closures = years of resource mis-management on all levels,
>and then gathering data during the closure period to make
>it look like good science and relevant data.
>
>Let me also clarify this statement . .
>"It's politics at it's best, with a side-helping of money and
>greed".
>
>That statement is meant for everyone involved with diverting
>the
>water for the farmers. Money talks, and the Klamath and it's
>Salmon
>are now suffering. That statement had absolutely ZERO to do
>with
>COASTSIDE!
>
>Sure glad I'm amped for my island trip or I wouldn't have been
>able
>to respond until Sunday. I might have been burnt to a crisp by
>then!
>
>When I can't sleep before a trip, yeah fishing is still for
>me.
>
>John.
I am trying to figure out your position here.
The "Ticehurst Plan" is being proposed by Coaside board member and Pacific Fisheries Management Councel member Darrell Ticehurst. The plan calls for an 18-month suspension of the "floor" number for natural (read wild fish) spawners.
The fundamental problem is that the Council is not counting the return of hatchery fish. Due to the massive fish kills in 2001 and 2002 we are now seeing the impacts on the returning wild fish. It is also important to recognize that there is NO DIFFERENCE BETWEEN "WILD" AND HATCHERY SALMON. None. Genetic studies confirm this.
We (Coastside) are saying that we should not be using the "wild" spawner number for fisheries management. It does not work and is based on 30-year old science. However, it is very valuable in that the number of wild spawners is a direct indicator as to the health of the river. We all know how screwed up the Klamath is. We should be using "wild" fish to manage the fish as a whole, from gravel bed to open ocean, not to manage how many we catch in the ocean.
The fish kills in 01/02 were casued from low flows and the wrong time of year that increased water temp and promoted the growth of algae which further increased the levels of some bacteria. When the salmon came in the river and no place to go they were killed by the 10's of thousands. Some estimates were as high as 60,000 with a minimum of 36,000 I believe.
Both the National Academy of Sciences and the Department of Fish and Game have both said that "overfishing has nothing to do with the situation on the Klamath."
Boats fishing out of SF and south catch on average 4 Klamath for every 1000 Sacramento River fish.
The Ticehurst Plan is the only chance we have to save not only our season but the millions of dollars and jobs and business that depend on salmon every year.
Ben Sleeter
Coastside Fishing Club
Political Team
>And I know I'm going to get roasted for my position.
>
>Closures = years of resource mis-management on all levels,
>and then gathering data during the closure period to make
>it look like good science and relevant data.
>
>Let me also clarify this statement . .
>"It's politics at it's best, with a side-helping of money and
>greed".
>
>That statement is meant for everyone involved with diverting
>the
>water for the farmers. Money talks, and the Klamath and it's
>Salmon
>are now suffering. That statement had absolutely ZERO to do
>with
>COASTSIDE!
>
>Sure glad I'm amped for my island trip or I wouldn't have been
>able
>to respond until Sunday. I might have been burnt to a crisp by
>then!
>
>When I can't sleep before a trip, yeah fishing is still for
>me.
>
>John.
I am trying to figure out your position here.
The "Ticehurst Plan" is being proposed by Coaside board member and Pacific Fisheries Management Councel member Darrell Ticehurst. The plan calls for an 18-month suspension of the "floor" number for natural (read wild fish) spawners.
The fundamental problem is that the Council is not counting the return of hatchery fish. Due to the massive fish kills in 2001 and 2002 we are now seeing the impacts on the returning wild fish. It is also important to recognize that there is NO DIFFERENCE BETWEEN "WILD" AND HATCHERY SALMON. None. Genetic studies confirm this.
We (Coastside) are saying that we should not be using the "wild" spawner number for fisheries management. It does not work and is based on 30-year old science. However, it is very valuable in that the number of wild spawners is a direct indicator as to the health of the river. We all know how screwed up the Klamath is. We should be using "wild" fish to manage the fish as a whole, from gravel bed to open ocean, not to manage how many we catch in the ocean.
The fish kills in 01/02 were casued from low flows and the wrong time of year that increased water temp and promoted the growth of algae which further increased the levels of some bacteria. When the salmon came in the river and no place to go they were killed by the 10's of thousands. Some estimates were as high as 60,000 with a minimum of 36,000 I believe.
Both the National Academy of Sciences and the Department of Fish and Game have both said that "overfishing has nothing to do with the situation on the Klamath."
Boats fishing out of SF and south catch on average 4 Klamath for every 1000 Sacramento River fish.
The Ticehurst Plan is the only chance we have to save not only our season but the millions of dollars and jobs and business that depend on salmon every year.
Ben Sleeter
Coastside Fishing Club
Political Team