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I purchased a little over 100 gallons a couple of weeks ago at 3.75/gallon inclusive of taxes. I would imagine it is somewhere between 4-4.30 now? But that's just a guess.Mac Attack said:
Jankovich & Sons
Berth 74 Los Angeles Main Channel
San Pedro, CA 90731
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Fuel Info;
Port of Los Angeles and Jankovich Make the Transition to Ultra Low Sulfur Diesel Fuel
Business Wire, March 1, 2004
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SAN PEDRO, Calif.--(BUSINESS WIRE)--March 1, 2004
Combining efforts to clean up harbor air, the Port of Los Angeles and long-term customer The Jankovich Company today announced a new agreement to fuel its marine fleet with ultra low sulfur diesel, a technologically advanced, cleaner-burning fuel, refined from select crudes.
Delivered by Jankovich, this revolutionary fuel is provided by BP, under the brand name ECD(R). Together, the Port of Los Angeles and Jankovich are the first clients in the nation to use this formula at a marine facility.
This ultra low sulfur diesel replaces standard diesel normally used on most harbor craft and minimizes the amount of sulfur down from 500 parts per million by weight (ppmw) to only 15 ppmw. The California Air Resources Board's current diesel fuel regulations for sulfur content are 500 ppmw, maximum. Proposed amendments to these regulations would reduce diesel fuel sulfur content to 15 ppmw, starting in mid-2006.
"This annual agreement with Jankovich aligns with the Port's widespread goal to diminish air pollutants," said Harbor Commission President Nicholas Tonsich. "The Board of Harbor Commissioners will continue to support air quality programs that meet, and in this case, exceed federal and state regulations."
Included in the Port of Los Angeles fleet are Port Police and Port Pilot boats, which make constant trips in and around the harbor. Cleanup and construction vessels operated by the Port's Construction and Maintenance crews, as well as its tour boat, will also use the new fuel. As an added convenience, recreational boaters and small craft can fuel up at Jankovich.
Since 1933, The Jankovich Company has supplied fuel for cargo ships, tugs, barges and other marine vessels. Its San Pedro facility at Berth 74 provides 500-foot dockside space for ships and storage for more than 205,000 gallons of clean diesel fuel.
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Berth 74 Los Angeles Main Channel
San Pedro, CA 90731
Fuel Info;
Port of Los Angeles and Jankovich Make the Transition to Ultra Low Sulfur Diesel Fuel
Business Wire, March 1, 2004
E-mail Print Link Business Editors
SAN PEDRO, Calif.--(BUSINESS WIRE)--March 1, 2004
Combining efforts to clean up harbor air, the Port of Los Angeles and long-term customer The Jankovich Company today announced a new agreement to fuel its marine fleet with ultra low sulfur diesel, a technologically advanced, cleaner-burning fuel, refined from select crudes.
Delivered by Jankovich, this revolutionary fuel is provided by BP, under the brand name ECD(R). Together, the Port of Los Angeles and Jankovich are the first clients in the nation to use this formula at a marine facility.
This ultra low sulfur diesel replaces standard diesel normally used on most harbor craft and minimizes the amount of sulfur down from 500 parts per million by weight (ppmw) to only 15 ppmw. The California Air Resources Board's current diesel fuel regulations for sulfur content are 500 ppmw, maximum. Proposed amendments to these regulations would reduce diesel fuel sulfur content to 15 ppmw, starting in mid-2006.
"This annual agreement with Jankovich aligns with the Port's widespread goal to diminish air pollutants," said Harbor Commission President Nicholas Tonsich. "The Board of Harbor Commissioners will continue to support air quality programs that meet, and in this case, exceed federal and state regulations."
Included in the Port of Los Angeles fleet are Port Police and Port Pilot boats, which make constant trips in and around the harbor. Cleanup and construction vessels operated by the Port's Construction and Maintenance crews, as well as its tour boat, will also use the new fuel. As an added convenience, recreational boaters and small craft can fuel up at Jankovich.
Since 1933, The Jankovich Company has supplied fuel for cargo ships, tugs, barges and other marine vessels. Its San Pedro facility at Berth 74 provides 500-foot dockside space for ships and storage for more than 205,000 gallons of clean diesel fuel.
DR
re: Super Low Sulfer Fuel at Janks - Oh NO!
Hope that doesn't raise the price and further, and there is this from Boatdiesel. Better stock up on ATF.
Originator: Svening Level 1 Member Date: May 19, 2008 - 01:40 AM
Hello
I'm wondering if you or somebody you know has experienced any Volvo D4/D6 engine failures. In Norway we are currently working on a case where about 30 engines have failed most likely due to dry fuel which cases an injector problem and a cranked injector copper sleeve.
Such an engine failure might not seem to be caused by an injector, but mostly such a failure is caused by loose of coolant due to a blown cap plug. Some engines also have a hole in the block.
If you know of any failed/damaged D4/D6, please email me with the story. This will be very useful information.
Response #1 from: Tomas Kempe [email] Level 1 Member Date: May 19, 2008 - 02:36 AM
When it rains it pours. We have suspected this all along with ultra low sufur diesel - the reason we have not seen anything like it in US is that most D4/6 are recreational engines with low hours. In Norway most of these are in fishing work boats I assume, the low HP versions of these models. This is a situation Volvo presumably would be heavily involved but it seem you are on your own. We have had assurances from experts that Volvo has covered there ass with this ULSD and lubricity but apparently not. Cummins is popular there for a reason with lower revving engines (in work-boats) and thus less strain on the system (my assumption), are they experiencing similar things. Generally we never see posts like this since the manufacturer is involved before it surface. Sure Volvo would replace these but does it solve the problem? perhaps it is time that you guys start lobbying the oil companies/ politicians to ease up on low sulfur on the water. You have far more sulfur phobia than we yet have in US, but it is coming. What we are doing with older engines, i.e. not common rail as I know it, is to put ATF fluid in the Diesel, Marvels Mystery oil we have over here, Diesel additives that increase lubricity. Cummins is introducing a FS 2000 filter that contain added lubricants and asphaltene dissolving stuff, mainly for common rail engines? not yet easily available but that is probably what Volvo need to do also.
Response #2 from: Karl Forums Moderator Date: May 19, 2008 - 04:21 AM
Svening,
Are you hearing about any cases like this outside Norway ?
Karl
Response #3 from: Paul Foulston [email] Level 3 Member Date: May 25, 2008 - 11:07 PM
Karl,
Please email me.
Paul
Response #4 from: Hill [email] Level 1 Member Date: May 25, 2008 - 11:27 PM
I have a friend in the harbor that lost both D6's last season with less than 1600hrs. He lost them a week apart. I don't know what was worked out on the replacement of the 2 mains, but Volvo sold him a 3rd spare engine that he keeps in storage for about $16K. These engines were in a charter boat. I believe another boat lost 1 D6.
-hill
Hope that doesn't raise the price and further, and there is this from Boatdiesel. Better stock up on ATF.
Originator: Svening Level 1 Member Date: May 19, 2008 - 01:40 AM
Hello
I'm wondering if you or somebody you know has experienced any Volvo D4/D6 engine failures. In Norway we are currently working on a case where about 30 engines have failed most likely due to dry fuel which cases an injector problem and a cranked injector copper sleeve.
Such an engine failure might not seem to be caused by an injector, but mostly such a failure is caused by loose of coolant due to a blown cap plug. Some engines also have a hole in the block.
If you know of any failed/damaged D4/D6, please email me with the story. This will be very useful information.
Response #1 from: Tomas Kempe [email] Level 1 Member Date: May 19, 2008 - 02:36 AM
When it rains it pours. We have suspected this all along with ultra low sufur diesel - the reason we have not seen anything like it in US is that most D4/6 are recreational engines with low hours. In Norway most of these are in fishing work boats I assume, the low HP versions of these models. This is a situation Volvo presumably would be heavily involved but it seem you are on your own. We have had assurances from experts that Volvo has covered there ass with this ULSD and lubricity but apparently not. Cummins is popular there for a reason with lower revving engines (in work-boats) and thus less strain on the system (my assumption), are they experiencing similar things. Generally we never see posts like this since the manufacturer is involved before it surface. Sure Volvo would replace these but does it solve the problem? perhaps it is time that you guys start lobbying the oil companies/ politicians to ease up on low sulfur on the water. You have far more sulfur phobia than we yet have in US, but it is coming. What we are doing with older engines, i.e. not common rail as I know it, is to put ATF fluid in the Diesel, Marvels Mystery oil we have over here, Diesel additives that increase lubricity. Cummins is introducing a FS 2000 filter that contain added lubricants and asphaltene dissolving stuff, mainly for common rail engines? not yet easily available but that is probably what Volvo need to do also.
Response #2 from: Karl Forums Moderator Date: May 19, 2008 - 04:21 AM
Svening,
Are you hearing about any cases like this outside Norway ?
Karl
Response #3 from: Paul Foulston [email] Level 3 Member Date: May 25, 2008 - 11:07 PM
Karl,
Please email me.
Paul
Response #4 from: Hill [email] Level 1 Member Date: May 25, 2008 - 11:27 PM
I have a friend in the harbor that lost both D6's last season with less than 1600hrs. He lost them a week apart. I don't know what was worked out on the replacement of the 2 mains, but Volvo sold him a 3rd spare engine that he keeps in storage for about $16K. These engines were in a charter boat. I believe another boat lost 1 D6.
-hill
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Fueled at Janks yesterday
Took on 100 gal. , $488.00. and he told me that he gave me the 200 gal. price break...
Took on 100 gal. , $488.00. and he told me that he gave me the 200 gal. price break...
Thats Insane! I see a new market for higher MPG boats. Single Diesel's ? I also see a market for twin gas V8's going cheaper. 8* Single Diesel Boats, 10 knots is OK if you can get to Catalina on 5 gallons or less. Thinking about parking that V8 SUV :? Driving around a V8 Pickup with a fiberglass bed cover :? Why ?
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re: Super Low Sulfer Fuel at Janks - Oh NO!
I went down 5/29. Commercial price with 100 gallon break was $4.71 including tax. I was shocked when I got there, in the end I burned a hundred dollars in fuel just to go fuel up. Not sure I even saved that much, but I didn't want to check the 76 dock and feel even worse if I hadn't.
I went down 5/29. Commercial price with 100 gallon break was $4.71 including tax. I was shocked when I got there, in the end I burned a hundred dollars in fuel just to go fuel up. Not sure I even saved that much, but I didn't want to check the 76 dock and feel even worse if I hadn't.
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