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Phootateer # 1 -
.....except through Pest Control Operators."

Phootateer # 3 - Licensed by the STATE

cha-ching!!!!

pez - so the state pimps for
and is paid for (with our dough)
by the corps

seen?

ps - what else do y’all need to know?
Oh wait excuse moi!!!!
ROTMFFLMMFACFO
 

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Phootateer # 1 -
.....except through Pest Control Operators."

Phootateer # 3 - Licensed by the STATE

cha-ching!!!!

pez - so the state pimps for
and is paid for (with our dough)
by the corps

seen?

ps - what else do y’all need to know?
Oh wait excuse moi!!!!
ROTMFFLMMFACFO
we agree. . . .keep markets free!!!!
 

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the thing about the socialist agenda is how conveniently 'green' it works to gain control of the masses:

"No person shall use Glyphosate except through Pest Control Operators."
Adios ****** imperialistas!!!!!!
[W]ith the objective of achieving self-sufficiency and food sovereignty, our country must be oriented towards establishing sustainable and culturally adequate agricultural production, through the use of agroecological practices and inputs that are safe for human health, the country’s biocultural diversity and the environment, as well as congruent with the agricultural traditions of Mexico.”

Mexico Bans Genetically Modified (GM) Corn and Glyphosate Pesticide Despite Intense Pressure
 

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Adios ** imperialistas!!!!!!
[W]ith the objective of achieving self-sufficiency and food sovereignty, our country must be oriented towards establishing sustainable and culturally adequate agricultural production, through the use of agroecological practices and inputs that are safe for human health, the country’s biocultural diversity and the environment, as well as congruent with the agricultural traditions of Mexico.”

Mexico Bans Genetically Modified (GM) Corn and Glyphosate Pesticide Despite Intense Pressure
C’mon BobObot dig into y’all’s rationalizing apologizing sheesh bag and regurgispew some corporate compliant capitalist creed to show y’all’s fealty to the free market
 

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Obviously Pez my stance on free markets must have flown over your head. I have expressed concerns about the Monsanto product becoming so pervasive that it is essentially a monopoly. That is the opposite of a free market. Seems Monsanto isn't the only target but other corporations have developed strains resistant to drought that have nothing to do with Roundup.

The efficacy of GM modified corn in providing food to people is very hard to deny. The question at hand is whether this is beneficial for Mexican access to food and jobs or not. If I lived in Mexico that would be important to me. We will have to see how it plays out. FYI, I am supportive of natural strains of corn as well. I would want to be sure they don't go extinct, but that's not really at the forefront here. Its about how much producers of the native species can produce and sell.

I would be open to a taste test. If I like the taste I would pay more for it. But its hard to perceive how that helps the little guy who can't afford more.
 

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Obviously Pez my stance on free markets must have flown over your head. I have expressed concerns about the Monsanto product becoming so pervasive that it is essentially a monopoly. That is the opposite of a free market. Seems Monsanto isn't the only target but other corporations have developed strains resistant to drought that have nothing to do with Roundup.

The efficacy of GM modified corn in providing food to people is very hard to deny. The question at hand is whether this is beneficial for Mexican access to food and jobs or not. If I lived in Mexico that would be important to me. We will have to see how it plays out. FYI, I am supportive of natural strains of corn as well. I would want to be sure they don't go extinct, but that's not really at the forefront here. Its about how much producers of the native species can produce and sell.

I would be open to a taste test. If I like the taste I would pay more for it. But its hard to perceive how that helps the little guy who can't afford more.
Although, on the balance, the North American Free Trade Agreement has been a plus for the export manufacturing portion of the economy, the effect of NAFTA on Mexico has been negative in other areas. The most glaring example of this can be found in the state of the agricultural sector of the country’s economy. As tariffs were eliminated on farm products, the United States was able to send an increasingly larger portion of its harvest across the border to its southern neighbor. It is estimated that approximately two million small farmers were forced to leave the countryside. Mexican growers of corn, in particular, were adversely affected by cheaper imports from the United States. While many of these rural workers were forced into the informal sector of the economy, many opted to migrate to the United States in search of work in growing fields there. Additionally, because the provisions of the NAFTA made it easier to sell land, presently large transnational companies such as Maseca, Bimbo, Cargill, Bachoco, PilgrimsPride, Tysson, Nestle, Lala, Sigma, Monsanto and others control the bulk of Mexico’s arable lands. This concentration of ownership by large agricultural concerns also played a large role in the mass exodus of rural farmers from the Mexican countryside.
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Although, on the balance, the North American Free Trade Agreement has been a plus for the export manufacturing portion of the economy, the effect of NAFTA on Mexico has been negative in other areas. The most glaring example of this can be found in the state of the agricultural sector of the country’s economy. As tariffs were eliminated on farm products, the United States was able to send an increasingly larger portion of its harvest across the border to its southern neighbor. It is estimated that approximately two million small farmers were forced to leave the countryside. Mexican growers of corn, in particular, were adversely affected by cheaper imports from the United States. While many of these rural workers were forced into the informal sector of the economy, many opted to migrate to the United States in search of work in growing fields there. Additionally, because the provisions of the NAFTA made it easier to sell land, presently large transnational companies such as Maseca, Bimbo, Cargill, Bachoco, PilgrimsPride, Tysson, Nestle, Lala, Sigma, Monsanto and others control the bulk of Mexico’s arable lands. This concentration of ownership by large agricultural concerns also played a large role in the mass exodus of rural farmers from the Mexican countryside.
Seen
Too bad Pez cannot think and communicate for himself like above and make sense. The only thing original posted from him above is the "Seen" at the very bottom. For more info as to where he cut and pasted this from, go here: Effects of NAFTA on Mexico produced mixed positive and negative results.
 

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Too bad Pez cannot think and communicate for himself like above and make sense. The only thing original posted from him above is the "Seen" at the very bottom. For more info as to where he cut and pasted this from, go here: Effects of NAFTA on Mexico produced mixed positive and negative results.
Y’all “Too bad Pez cannot think and communicate for himself like above and make sense.”

me’all “oh the irony”

y’all “blah blah blah.....”

me’all phoot

FYI me”all was trying to find info on the effects of nafta on tortillerias and panaderias which would show how Amerika’s agricon biz model leaves no local tortillas on the table
Seen?
No?
Imagine that
ps - one of the things I find most interesting about all y’all’s is how y’all’s regurgitate the dominate narrative as if “IT” was all y’all’s own thinking!!!!
Trippy indeed
 

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So the Mexican people are being prostrated and force fed officially sanctioned holy food by their socialist task masters
 

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FYI me”all was trying to find info on the effects of nafta on tortillerias and panaderias which would show how Amerika’s agricon biz model leaves no local tortillas on the table
Seen?
No?
Imagine that
ps - one of the things I find most interesting about all y’all’s is how y’all’s regurgitate the dominate narrative as if “IT” was all y’all’s own thinking!!!!
Trippy indeed
Pez says he is not as think as you stoned he is and I believe him.

Mexico needs to pull up it's own boot straps to help themselves. Maybe it's time for them for another revolucion?

Pez's poster boy.

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Yet as a percentage, fewer people in the world are hungry than at any time in the history of the world.

It seems as a kid I remember virtually no real agriculture on the way to San Felipe, and the last time I went I saw quite a bit.
 

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Pez says he is not as think as you stoned he is and I believe him.

Mexico needs to pull up it's own boot straps to help themselves. Maybe it's time for them for another revolucion?

Pez's poster boy.
Pez says he is not as think as you stoned he is and I believe him.

LMAO!

Mexico needs to pull up it's own boot straps to help themselves. Maybe it's time for them for another revolucion?

probably

Pez's poster boy.

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Yet as a percentage, fewer people in the world are hungry than at any time in the history of the world.

It seems as a kid I remember virtually no real agriculture on the way to San Felipe, and the last time I went I saw quite a bit.
As a kid I remember agriculture all the way from la to sd
the wetlands full of life
the ocean full of fish
the sky full of birds
bugs splattering on the windshield
Went across the border to go tuna fishing with my dad and his amigos in early sixties and there was tuna boiling everywhere.
Blows my mind that “IT” is killing the planet
for profit
 

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As a kid I remember agriculture all the way from la to sd
the wetlands full of life
the ocean full of fish
the sky full of birds
bugs splattering on the windshield
Went across the border to go tuna fishing with my dad and his amigos in early sixties and there was tuna boiling everywhere.
Blows my mind that “IT” is killing the planet
for profit
Pez. The bluefin haven't been this good since the 1930's. All that is occurring across much of the board is MSY fishing. That S stands for sustainable. I am not a fan of that amount of fishing but it does have the benefit of feeding a lot of people. The US is more conservative than the other nations pursuing larger populations of fish which is a level of fishing that ensures larger stock biomasses than MSY. They have a very good record at doing it most of the successes coming in the last 20 years. Perhaps you might figure that out if you get back out there and do more fishing.

Yes deep baja runs in the 60's were incredible, virgin populations of fish. But the world's population has more than doubled since 1960. The demand for seafood has gone up tremendously. Places where fishing isn't occurring has greatly diminished. Doesn't have anything to do with IT its just simply more people. So unless you want to personally become the arbiter of who lives and dies it is just something society needs to continue to find better ways to deal with it. BTW last time I drove back from Oregon with my wife a decade ago I went through the biggest bug splatter zone of my life. I think your problem is you are viewing through yo daddy's propaganda and have stopped living it becoming more of a homebody instead. My perception is the 50's and 60's were great, 70's, 80', and most of the 90's not so great. The 00's and 10's far better and improving. I have confidence in the 20's as a result. Was sitting in with a workgroup on a review of a sustainability program sponsored by the feds. What impressed me the most was the negativity in attitude of the surveys. IMO, we hit bottom ecosystem wise probably in the 80's though that could have been fall out from the cooling planet that preceded that. But it did spur a lot of environmental interest. Now most who answered the call then are encouraged, but those sitting by the wayside listening to appeal for money from their daddy's aren't and as a result the group with the least positive outlook is the small guy trying to make a living. . . . attitudes crushed politically by overly zealous couch potatoes who get their talking points from TV, Radio, and wealthy. And have forgotten how to live life. Which reminds me the best Super Bowl ad this year was Bass Pro Shops.
 
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