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Speaking with Larry at In-Seine Bait in MDR . . .
The WATER TEMP inside MDR harbor is 81 degrees.
Just outside at Playa Del Rey it's 71 degrees.
Once he wraps and makes a load . .
Because of these TEMPS he carries only half the amount of bait he normally carries.
This prevents the Sardines from being CRAP by the time he gets back in.
He is only stocking his receivers at half their capacities for the same reasons.
All bait struggles with these WATER TEMPS!
If you purchase bait at this time of the year look for beat-up bait when it's being scooped.
This may be a sign the bait operation has overfilled their receivers.
Many bait operations have Party Boat committments in addition to Private Boaters they supply.
They try to keep their supply in line with the demand.
Sometimes though this warm water that can push the bait over the edge.
DO NOT overfill your bait tanks this time of the year with bait.
Those of you that have poly tanks you're best to paint them, or get a canvas cover.
It will improve your bait survival results 100%!

So you get AVG bait to start and then start pounding it headed to wherever . .
Throw in the WTAER TEMPS and it's a lose lose SITCH IMO.
Get to the bait operations either during off-hours when the nets are down and the bait is relaxed,
or early in the morning before the lines are long and the turnover of boats and bait is quick.
In the last 3 weeks I've seen bait that was 2 weeks old have their tongues hanging out.
This is SOLEY due to the warm WATER TEMPS.

Try and adjust to the conditions, just like fishing,
and the survival rate of your bait will increase.

This is just a reminder . .

John.
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Great advice John.

Since bait is caught at night in 30-120 feet of water where the temp is much cooler is is often in a state of thermal shock after being placed in the 78-81 degree water now found in most harbors. Additionally the warmer water has less ability to maintain a high oxygen content further compounding the mortality issue. Given some time to adjust --- as bait is that is carried on long range trips to the banks below Cabo --- mortality will not be an issue; however, with the high summer demand the chances of finding cured bait is nil.
 

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I put in 2-3 hours today at the In-Seine bait dock.
Larry's bait was in great shape!
Weighed-in some SMB WSB too this morning! :eek:
They were caught by some Halibut fisherman using Sardines in 80 feet.

I was told they lost all their bait across the way. :-(

With the warm water . . .
Over crowding your bait tank is not what you want to do.
A number of boats were prepared today.
Some boats I baited this morning put their 2nd bait tanks back on their boats.
They split a scoop between the 2 bait tanks. SMART!

John.
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Hi John,

Thursday afternoon I missed Larry by about 10 minutes (so they say). I showed up at 4:30 and he was closed. I was forced to buy bait from across the way. It started started rolling before I cleared the harbor. Friday morning I had only about a dozen beat up pieces of bait remaining.

Good thing some of the dorado on the 277 liked the dead stuff.

In the future I will call Larry before heading down!

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Thanks for the great post John. Great advise.

I put a half scoop of dines I got from Nacho, in each half of my PE80 gallon split tank Saturday and I think I lost 4 baits all day. Everyone was complaining on the radio that their bait had rolled.

Posts like this are invaluable. Taking the time to explain this realy helps it sink in. At least it does for me. You just saved some fellow fisherman a lot of cash and they will have live bait too.
 
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