Looking for a little advice. Going on my first multi-day (6 day) out of San Diego. The trip is the last few days of July and first few of August on the Royal Star. Looking to set myself up with about 6 Yoyo jigs. Definintely on a budget here. Based on searches here I was thinking a couple Salas 6X, a couple Salas 6X Jr, and a couple Tady 4/O. Probably blue and white mostly. Would these give me a good base or are there any other must haves you would replace these with? Is it also advised to run a shot of Floro to the jig? I have lots of time in fishing Northern CA but for down there I'm educating myself reading posts here and just guessing. I appreciate any insight you can provide. Thanks.
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What the others said--half dozen ought to do it, 6xjr type size is good, blue/white, blue/chrome, scrambled egg.
I've never used floro for yoyo--its a reaction bite, so the floro just didn't seem necessary. If its already on the reel that you are using, can't see any harm in using it.
I've never used floro for yoyo--its a reaction bite, so the floro just didn't seem necessary. If its already on the reel that you are using, can't see any harm in using it.
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I would definitely purchase a couple of jigs and be ready to go offshore or at an island.
A Blue/Chrome Glowback jig with single hook is a must have item for offshore fishing for Bluefin and any other kind of tuna you might encounter. Something like a Tady 9. Fish it an hour before sunrise if the boat is drifting or on the sea anchor and for a while after sunset. That's the time to get bit. Drop it deep, maybe 200 feet and then wind like crazy.
Then one or two painted jigs, 6X Jr. Get one of each Blue/White and Scrambled Egg or two Blue/White. That should do it so that you don't go crazy getting all loaded up with yoyo iron. You can probably buy more jigs from the boat. One more from the boat, even at ten bucks, is better than spending another $40 on jigs from a tackle shop that you might not need.
Here's the deal, on the dates you're planning on fishing, it's possible you won't see dirt the entire trip. You may spend the whole trip offshore chasing tuna and Yellows on paddies. So, as you said, "Definitely on a budget here" and why load up on a bunch of jigs you might not need or even get a chance to use. By the way, the best way to not get rocked is too fish a hammered drag and keep those Yellows from "going home,"
I just called Tracie in the office but she was busy and has yet to return my call. Why don't you give her a call or send her an email and ask what kind of jigs they have onboard and what they cost? Then you will know, and you can post it back up here so everybody else will know, too.
A Blue/Chrome Glowback jig with single hook is a must have item for offshore fishing for Bluefin and any other kind of tuna you might encounter. Something like a Tady 9. Fish it an hour before sunrise if the boat is drifting or on the sea anchor and for a while after sunset. That's the time to get bit. Drop it deep, maybe 200 feet and then wind like crazy.
Then one or two painted jigs, 6X Jr. Get one of each Blue/White and Scrambled Egg or two Blue/White. That should do it so that you don't go crazy getting all loaded up with yoyo iron. You can probably buy more jigs from the boat. One more from the boat, even at ten bucks, is better than spending another $40 on jigs from a tackle shop that you might not need.
Here's the deal, on the dates you're planning on fishing, it's possible you won't see dirt the entire trip. You may spend the whole trip offshore chasing tuna and Yellows on paddies. So, as you said, "Definitely on a budget here" and why load up on a bunch of jigs you might not need or even get a chance to use. By the way, the best way to not get rocked is too fish a hammered drag and keep those Yellows from "going home,"
I just called Tracie in the office but she was busy and has yet to return my call. Why don't you give her a call or send her an email and ask what kind of jigs they have onboard and what they cost? Then you will know, and you can post it back up here so everybody else will know, too.
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Don't follow these guys advice. Do what I did and get about a dozen of each color and size then your tackle box will be so heavy that you need three strong men just to carry it on board. You will then be so confused over which one to use, that you just use live bait and your iron never touch the water!
If I could take only one jig on a long range trip it would be a 6X in scrambled egg. I expect on your trip you'll spend at least a day at Benitos or Cedros/Natividad and I would fish that jig all day there. Fish it on 50# line with hammered drags. I seldom if ever soak a bait at those places, and I've never seen bait fishermen outscore iron fishermen there. I really don't think color is of primary importance but I only use scrambled egg or blue and white in those areas.
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Steve K is absolutely right about the offshore deal. The single most productive color I've ever used offshore is blue/chrome, in many different sizes. It's also very effective for yo-yo when fishing the yellows around the banks and islands.Steve K said:
He right about the size too. For a six day trip and wanting the most bang for the buck, I'd stick with the Salas 6X Jr., Sumo Jr., Tady 9 sized stuff. The Tady BA in blue/chrome is a favorite of mine as well.
If I was going to have just six jigs in the sizes mentioned, I'd go with the folowing:
Blue/White.................. 2 ea.
Blue/Chrome................. 2 ea. (Both with a single hook, preferably a forged hook.)
Scrambled Egg............... 2 ea.
This will do just fine 95% of the time. But if you want to throw in an odd color or two, swap one of the Blue/White for a green sardine "Booger" jig. It ain't just for surface iron!
And when you yo-yo, it's no different than fishing the top. DO NOT stop winding to set the hook. Just crank right through the hit until the fish starts puts a good bend in the rod! And then keep winding anyway! If your hooks are sharp they will set themselves from just the pressure of cranking.
FISH HARD!
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Is anyone else having a llloooooooonnnggg wait for stuff to load here or new posts to go up? Just curious. FISH HARD! P.S. Never mind, it all of a sudden started running like a race horse. @(
This post edited by Baja Dreamer 06/04/2008
This post edited by Baja Dreamer 06/04/2008
The color suggestions are dead bang on - b/w, egg, and dordo account for most yoyo fish with hammered drags and at least 40# line, and a high retrieve ratio reel - like 5:1 or better. Chrome is more useful for tuna, as are single hooks. A good 4x treble will never let you down on bruiser YT. It is physically impossible to retreive a yojig too fast - I use a 6:1 Torium and they nail it like it was standing still. Humbly suggest you go with 7x Salas for the extra weight in a current (size really does not seem to matter much with YT)and they seem to get bit better for me than Tads. Since nobody mentioned surface iron, Candybars (in SardineGreen or Anchovy) seem to work best, altho Tady C's, 9's, and AA's are well regarded. If you get spendy, mint green, birdshit, babyshit, and blue in Salas swirl/speckle patterns also are killers....
I fish fluoro leader as a matter of habit and it does seem to help, and sometimes tip the hook with GID/chartreuse Powerbait strips/grubs or squid heads. A piece of GID tape on the bottom side seems to help with YT also. Good luck and post a trip report.
I fish fluoro leader as a matter of habit and it does seem to help, and sometimes tip the hook with GID/chartreuse Powerbait strips/grubs or squid heads. A piece of GID tape on the bottom side seems to help with YT also. Good luck and post a trip report.
I usually toss the Salas 6x and love the booger color for yellers at the islands however, I have gone on many trips when the fish were feeding on micro baits and my teeny tiny sardine opattern stingers caught fish when nothing else could. Back some little irons...just in case.
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Schweet! I have the same reel and it's my go to yoyo reel for fishing 50 lb. If it's straight small fish in the school like 15-18 pounders, I just got that Tyrnos12II and it's topped with 40 lb. I also have the same rod in the Black Steel version, wrapped for/by willy with cork tape and X-Tube on the handle. I've used it with the Baja Special as well, but usually fish that reel on a Seeker Classic 6465H.Kevsuda said:
Go forth and slay!
Yeah, I also wrapped a couple of classic 865H's for live bait 40 (JX2) and 30-40 (Saltist30T or JX 4:1). All this gear will primarily be albacore trollers on my own boat up here.
I'm also looking for suggestions on live bait hooks. What size, type and how many? Thanks.
I'm also looking for suggestions on live bait hooks. What size, type and how many? Thanks.
a sixer in July might get ya a little of everything - chickens, YT, BFTs an maybe yfts(a tad early). Prolly head for Cedros or Lupe an fish tuna each way - so mostly surface action with some looping/ironwork. 25-50# surface line and 80# minimum dropper. For hooks, you'll need surpringly few - maybe some larger circles (5/0 unringed SuperMutus) for looping, a few ringed J's in #2 (for spook bites), 2/0 for normal paddy and chickens, and 4/0 for larger model fishies. No more than 20 of each max - the boat will sell you hooks (and sinkers) if needs be. Brandwise it's wide open - nothing wrong with Mustad (LM318Mag, L2004), VMC (7226), Penn (chovie), or Eagle Claw in bronze or Duratin, but I prefer Owner (Flyliner, Mutu, Gorilla) and Gamakatsu (HD live bait)in black chrome. IMHE red hooks are pretty much useless. For miscellaneous stuff, some larger split rings (for chaining up sinkers), a dozen crossline swivels for loopin, good *****, a few trolling feathers, a few small (60#)barrel swivels, a few swimbaits, some 25, 30, 40 FC and you're ready.
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Reply from Royal Star
Good Morning Steve,
We carry Salas 6x's and a variety of other heavy jigs that can be used for yo yo fishing.I don't recall the exact amount per jig but it is no higher than eight dollars and more likely around seven. If you have any other questions please feel free to e-mail or call.
Sincerely,
Tim Ekstrom
Good Morning Steve,
We carry Salas 6x's and a variety of other heavy jigs that can be used for yo yo fishing.I don't recall the exact amount per jig but it is no higher than eight dollars and more likely around seven. If you have any other questions please feel free to e-mail or call.
Sincerely,
Tim Ekstrom
I read a post here from the Seeker rep saying the SS's are designed to fish the top of their ratings. The SS-CJBF70H is rated 40-60 and I agree. Mine feels like it can snap 40 without even going full bendo. It's a seriuosly stout rod.
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